EDF called

[The Natural Philosopher]

To try and book me for a Smart Meter. I told the almost English speaking bint at the far end that I didn't want it and put the phone down.

Am I required to take it?

[Andy Burns]

At the moment, the customer is only required to have one if the T&C of the tariff you've chosen require it, but the supplier is under pressure from OFGEM to meet a certain target for smart meters.

[The Natural Philosopher]

ta. Well fuckemboth

[Andy Bennet]

I think legally the meter is 'owned' by whoever currently supplies your 'leccy. therefore in theory they can change it as they wish.

[alan_m]

Just insist they install a generation 3 meter.

[Robin]

AIUI they can install whatever /meter/ they want if a new one is necessary - e.g. for reasons of safety or accuracy. What they cannot do is use it as "Smart meter" without the customer's consent.

[David Wade]

Whilst the government says no one is required to have a Smart Meter most current tariffs require you to agree to have one. So unless you are on an old "standard variable tariff" which is likely to get very expensive soon I suspect you agreed to have one last time you switched. Of course you can say "NO" but then EDF is free to move you to one of its non-smart tariffs which may be expensive..

Dave

[Tim Streater]

What is a generation 3 meter ?

[The Natural Philosopher]

I think that is the point...:-)

[Peter Johnson]

If your existing meter is considered life expired you have no choice.

[Steve Walker]

You can still tell them (for now at least) that they can replace the meter, but with another non-smart one.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Well with luck they will simply STFU

[Harry Bloomfield, Esq.]

The Natural Philosopher formulated on Wednesday :

Yes, but only if you agreed to a tarrif that stipulated you have, or have one fitted.

[Jeff Layman]

I think you'll find that the cheaper tariffs are related to DD payments rather than smart meters, although the latter may contribute. Are you sure the standard variable will get very expensive if the price cap remains?

[The Natural Philosopher]

I think I have been on this tariff since before there were smart meters.

[mechanic]

These are the ones that are 'capped'.

[Chris Bacon]

On 29/09/2021 11:34, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > To try and book me for a Smart Meter. I told the almost English speaking > bint at the far end that I didn't want it and put the phone down. >

Not unless you move into another house, or require a new meter (currently), AFAIK.

[Brian Gaff (Sofa]

In the end we all end up with smart meters since they are not making anything else and there is only the old type around as long as there is a contract to refurbish them. Brian

[Andy Burns]

Even if there are no dumb meters being made (I suspect they might still be) then a smart meter could be fitted in dumb mode, of course how would the customer tell?

[Chris Green]

Put a Faraday cage round it and it's forced to be in dumb mode! :-)