Dishwashers - Best Buy

Ordinarily, I'd say "Miele", but I'm feeling grumpy about them this week.

Jon Connell wrote in news:n8qj04$coi$1@dont- email.me:

Why do you need "built in"? It reduces your choice an makes repairs more difficult - also opening them and leafing the door partly open is more of a n operation.

Best dishwasher? Poleomatic mate.

Siemens trumps Neff anytime.

Richard

Miele...

And you cannot see the display. Unless you go for "semi integrated".

I agree - horrid idea. Much better to have a generous opening and use a normal appliance.

I was going to say roughly that, but it seems once people decide they want built-in it's all about appearance, and everything else takes 2nd priority.

The other upside of not built in is you can also find suitable used appliances in good condition some of the time, thus getting most of the life expectancy at a fraction of the price.

NT

Tricky Dicky wrote in news:a0dcbd86-7515-47ff-aaad- snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

Pleased with my Siemens. The main factor really is whther you like the interior layout.We cannot project reliability based on past performance of a then current model.

I painted the front of our "push-in" Miele to match the cupboards. Looks Ok enough.

I've gone from a dead Neff to a Miele and in all honesty I have to say the Neff cleaned significantly better. If we use the Miele on eco or sensor, unless the stuff is almost clean before being washed there's regularly crusty stuff left on bowls and cutlery (in the cuttlery draw)

Set it to intensive and stuff gets cleaned properly though.

Circuit board on the Neff blew up taking several tracks off the PCB. Tried to fix it but to no avail. Didn't bother pricing up a circuit board as there could have been something else at fault too.

Hopefully the Miele will last forever but if it doesn't I'd almost certainly not replace it with another Miele.

As others have said, I wooden get a built-in. I'd also make sure it was one with a tray at the very top for the cutlery, thus increasing the space for china.

If you're doing a refurb anyway, be sure to get a wider fridge/freezer (*not* American style). We got a 700mm wide Beko and are dead pleased with it. The insulation is no thicker so you get all the extra width for use.

Welcome to the club. I have been looking for a 70/30 freezer fridge for years and apart from building one I have no other solution. We need Apple to get into the appliance business in order for new thinking. The same problems of, one size fits all, bedevils all large appliances design. I have a combind gas/electric hob, unseen once you leave France. I see many products around the world which our major buyers are ignorant of or not prepared to risk being wrong.

separate fridge & freezer works for some.

NT

Yeah, because people are just *queueing* up to spend £5k on a fridge that needs your house rewiring to allow you to plug it in, the door is super slim but can't hold Tetrapaks, and apple get a 15% cut from supermarkets to automatically re-order your milk for you.

LOL :)

Double LOL

And it comes in apples custom sized containers, which are the only ones that fit the door.

And it will stop working in 5 years and there wont be any spares.

Huge wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@mid.individual.net:

We used to have wooden doors on TV sets! Seems un-necessary. A line of cupboard doors needs to be broken up with something different IMHO.

Doesn't AppleCare only go up to 3 years?