Non-flushing toilet

Feb 02, 2016 37 Replies

Most toilets seem to have a venturi type effect so that the contents of the bowl are "sucked" out. Ours doesn't. Tissue paper is often left floating though thankfully heavier content does tend to go away.



The "S" bend is all part of the toilet bowl structure so there would appear to be no potential here for air leaks.



The level in the bowl doesn't go up so it would appear that there is no blockage.



Any ideas?


AnthonyL scribbled

Wrong type of bog roll.

We gave up on Izal 50yrs ago. Daily Herald was best.

Not for a long time now. In other countries (US in particular) symphonic pans are still popular (and damned effective). I suspect our EU water consumption limits have rendered them ineffectual. You don't seem to be able to buy them anyway.

Could be a faulty flush valve limiting flow.

Tim

There's either not enough flush water, or it's flushing with insufficient velocity.

Check the water level at which the inlet valve closes, and adjust if too low. Oh, and if there's a brick in the bottom of the cistern to save water, remove it!

If the water level is ok, it may not be flowing into the pan with sufficient urge. Is it a conventional syphon? They can become 'tired' after a few years and cease to work very well. You could try replacing it with a dual-flush button or lever operated dump valve. I've done a couple of my toilets, and the flush is dramatically better.

In my youth, the Gloucestershire Echo was the thing. Q: What do you do when you run out of bog paper? A: 'oller and wait for the echo!

use more water

Actually that is really funny.

Scale round the rim (inside).

+1 Some of the recycled stuff seems to be waterproof and doesn't disintegrate when wet.

The flow into the bowl seems very healthy and there is now more volume as I've taken the water saving bag out. But will get SWIMBO to give it an extra clean :)

Some toilets seem to have a small suction (syphonic?) caused by the flow, and for a short period the level in the bowl is below its natural level. This toilet doesn't.

That is often the result of an air admittance valve in close proximity.

The suction is more or less the mass of water rushing down a down pipe. Once you get some air in, then the seal tends to break.

How far down the line can the air cause the problem? As I've said, the S bend itself is an integral part of the toilet bowl moulding - as opposed to a toilet in my last house that had rubber connectors.

I'm thinking more of whether the incoming water manages to whoosh round to the front properly.

In my engineering student days the thermodynamic/fluid mechanic terms I recall were eloquently, squish and swirl. Visually I seem to have a healthy dollop of both

I'm now wondering whether the opposite is the case. I've just noticed I don't have a soil pipe. Other similar properties do. Wouldn't that have aided in ensuring there wasn't a partial vacuum when the toilet flushes?

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