Crossing the channel...

I have to go to sodding Germany.
Will drive there...whats the cpesast and or easiets way to get across?
Can one still turn up at 5 a.m. and get the 6 a.m. ferry for 25 notes without pre booking?
Is booking online an option?
Is the car train any better? I know its effin expensive...
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

If you return same or next day, you can get 'le shuttle' as cheap as £23, but pretty slim availability ...
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On 03/07/18 13:47, Andy Burns wrote:

nah. family w/e - about a week
Does one still have to run an 'immigration gauntlet' at calais?
My favorite is alwys dead early morning ferry, breakfast in first class restaurant away from hoi polloi...france by 9 local time and germany by 4pm.
On te way back klate night start through the night Calais at 4 am and go...
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someone who knows that "hoi" means "the". Wonderful !
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wrote:

In Greek. In English it's merely empty terminology with no particular significance.

Only if you are anal enough to inflect it for the proper case.
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On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 14:06:11 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
No, it is done at Calais (but still by bored grumpy Frenchpersons.)
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says...

I've only used Norfolkline, now DFDS, from Dover to Dunkirk for about the last 20 years but the order of events is French and UK immigration at Dover, drive straight of at Dunkirk.
On the return, UJ immigration at Dunkirk, Customs at Dover.
I doubt Calais is much different.
Why don't you check out the DFDS (who also serve Calais) and Stena websites for ticket price details?
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Oops! I think that should have said DFDS and P&O!
DFDS to Dunkirk, longer crossing but cuts out the run up the coast from Calais and, unless its changed in the last couple of years, no coaches, therefore no noisy parties of school kids.
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On 03/07/18 19:00, Terry Casey wrote:

I acutally meant illegal immigrants.
Trying to get on board
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On 03/07/18 14:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Yes, first the French want to see your passport, the 'UK Border Farce', then some random check to see what you are carrying, the passport again for the ferry co.

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On 03/07/2018 22:01, DJC wrote:

What a palaver. Compare and contrast flying to Calais or Le Touquet.
Usually no police, border force, customs, immigration, to be seen for the entire trip, the only bureaucracy being the bit you never seem to be able to avoid, ie the guy collecting the landing fees.
But I was once surprised on leaving L2K (having gone there for lunch in the traditional manner) to be asked to show my passport. I had brought mine with me, but in fact this appeared to be unnecessary, because one of our party said to the policeman:
"Sorry mate, I left mine in the plane, is it OK if I go and get it?"
Nod from the policeman.
Guy walks to plane, gets in, takes off and flies home. ATC didn't try to stop him. I don't to this day know whether he'd really had his passport in the plane or whether he'd left it at home.
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Compared with flying *anywhere* nowadays the ferry is a welcome change.
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On 04/07/18 09:30, Chris Green wrote:

You can at lesast stretch your legs and insult the seagulls
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On 04/07/18 09:30, Chris Green wrote:

Yes indeed - the ferry to France, the most stressful bit is parking up and getting out before you get hemmed in by the next lane of cars. After that, it's walk about, have a drink and watch TV or look at the sea.
The only time it's not fun is if the sea is rough.
Pity SpeedFerries died - they did Dover->Boulogne-sur-Mer in about half the time, smaller boat so quicker loading and no lorries. And Boulogne is a much nicer place to drive out of than Calais.
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... and it has to be very rough for the ferry stabilisers not to make it feel reasonable.

Yes, we used to use them for preference, they were also the company that really forced prices down to reasonable levels. I remember before the days of Speedferries (probably back in the early 1980s) I was pleased if I got our ferry crossings for less than £100. Speedferries charged a fixed price of £25 if I rmemeber. Prices have stayed reasonable if you're clever/careful, we cross pretty frequently and use the DFDS multi-trip tickets which are currently £29 each way if you buy 12 or more returns.
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On 04/07/18 10:45, Tim Watts wrote:

Yes, I liked that, 40 minute crossing was lang enough for a break, but quicker than Dover, and no coach parties (I don't mind lorries). Boulogne is also ok for an overnight stop, so I could travel early evening and stay there rather than get as far from Calais as possible before stopping.
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On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:31:02 +0100

I don't know about cost, but my brother, who lives near Stuttgart, always crosses using the Hook of Holland to Harwich ferry, by Stena. Worth a look, anyway.
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On 03/07/18 14:12, Davey wrote:

costs a lot and takes for bloody ever.
150 quid ONE WAY is par..
compared with 20 something at unsociable hours calais/dover
Nice ferry tho.
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Almost certainly not.

Yes, both DFDS and P&O offer on-line booking (as do lots of agents but I avoid them now).

It's quick and quite flexible, but, as you say, expensive.

That's an option for Germany but quite expensive and takes all day or all night.
We use DFDS and buy a 'multitrip' ticket which gets the cost down to £29 per crossing and it's also completely flexible so you can arrive early or late (even next day) and get on the next avaiable crossing.
They are the only operator on Dover-Dunquerque which will save you a little driving distance at least when going to Germany.
If you have a friend/acquaintance who *has* a DFDS multitrip ticket they can assign one of their crossings to you, we provide a lot of family and friends with crossings at £29 a go.
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On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 14:39:31 +0100

The only time I've used it, the ticket was paid for, so I never noticed the price. After a day's driving from Stuttgart, my brother likes the buffet and bar, and a bed, for the night-time crossing. Going the other way, he is ready for the day of driving to get home. Horses for courses, and all that. Also, Harwich is very near me, so he can use here as a landing or starting point.
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