So would outlook express and various other readers. Usually because they
ignore the references headers altogether, and just thread on message
titles. (hence why a title change will break threading on some newsreaders)
Can you chaps kindly take your boring sub-thread about newsreaders etc
offline or at least retitle your subthread? I keep checking in look for
juicy details of some plumbing disaster only to find zzzzzzz <zonk -
head slumps onto keyboard>
"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
Ah well, changing the title of posts in this thread will make this appear as
a new thread in readers that just use the subject line to make the connection.
Clients using the headers will show it as a changed subject under the main
thread (assuming my client is working - it did when I compiled it 14 years
It's not him, it's you. Your headers show no References: lines, which is
what enables threading, so any decent news client (and that doesn't
include gargle gropes) will think it's a new post. FWIW, Turnpike sees
it as a new post too.
From your post (the one Alan referred to):
Subject: Bloody plumbers
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 09:22:56 +0100
User-Agent: Pluto/3.04e (RISC-OS/4.39) NewsHound/v1.50-32
X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2
Xref: feeder.eternal-september.org uk.d-i-y:183330
On Sat, 9 Jul 2011 10:58:28 +0100, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
Yet Dave's client at least preserves the References: line when it is
there. His response in:
Subject: Re: Lidl offers from Thurs.
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 09:25:48 +0100
Has References: how ever Dave has also quoted part of the message he
is responding to there. So perhaps without quotes it strips/doesn't
create References: or Dave had finger trouble.
At least 2 in the last 50 or so threads showing on my newsreader.
Doesn't bother me at all, although I am curious about why he does it. It
could be interpreted as some manner of self-aggrandisement I suppose.
At least part of the problem is with your settings, Alan. This and all
the other threads where people have complained about a new thread being
created for every post have shown up perfectly threaded on all my
machines in Thunderbird 2.0.24 under XP,using News Individual Net's server.
In this case Dave's reply doesn't look like a reply in any sense of the
word, no "re:" prefix on the subject and no "references:" header, it is
in fact a new message ... viewed here in TB3.1, but no reader would
thread it however it treated it.
Very odd - I'm using XP/Thunderbird 3.1.11 (for both this and the
original post kicking off this thread) and on my system Dave's post has
started a new thread... WTF??? Have I got settings wrong somewhere?
No, there is no 'References' line in the Headers, so some (compliant)
newsreaders cannot put it into the thread where it should have been.
If there was a "reference' in the header, all newsreaders can thread it
properly, as it is, some can, some can't.
To reply by e-mail, change the ' + ' to 'plus'.
That's because threading in TB 2 was somewhat broken (well the default
settings were different). TB 3 now defaults to using message ids and
references headers rather than subject lines. So 3 does it closer to the
Indeed. My boiler was installed a couple of years ago by a different
plumber from the same firm, which actually I have hitherto trusted and
used (for my gas stuff) for a long time. On the log book he'd stated
that Sentinel had been used and admittedly I took that at face value.
On reflection I now wish I'd run off a jar-full from a drain cock for a
bit of diy analysis before yesterday :(
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