bloody insurance

that is IF you could get it off what with that Korean monkey metal....

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Jim Stewart ...
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That didn't stop the ringers being made, which controlled scrapping does.

Reply to
Colin Bignell

That is only detection of ones that have been made and it is not infallible. It doesn't stop them being made in the first place.

Reply to
Colin Bignell

So assuming a car with heavy rear end damage only, you're not allowed to use the front or other good parts as spares?

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News

No it isn't. Ringers have been known to break in half in fairly minor accidents, with serious consequences for the occupants, and that can happen before they ever get to an MOT.

Reply to
Colin Bignell

Parts yes. The bodyshell no.

Reply to
Colin Bignell

Ringers were usually made by bodgers. Out for maximum profit. No reason a car - which is welded together anyway - can't be safe with two made from one.

How do you think stretch limos etc are made?

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Dave Plowman (News

How you you define the bodyshell? All are made from individual parts welded together.

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Dave Plowman (News

The bits that are welded together would seem like a good definition of bodyshell.

Reply to
Colin Bignell

Indeed, but it is highly improbable that a written off vehicle is going to have that done to an adequate standard. Safer to crush them, to prevent ringers.

They get steel frames welded into them, to take the extra loads. They do not rely upon a butt weld between two different body parts. They are also made by approved manufacturers, whose vehicles have to meet all the normal safety standards.

Reply to
Colin Bignell

There is no reason, other than the rules, that a category B vehicle could not be repaired to an adequate standard and then inspected - something similar to the IVA for personal foreign imports and self-built/kit cars.

Reply to
Steve Walker

Presumably the argument is that the authorities don't get notified about the repair and so can't check it until the next MOT. But the flaw in that line is with cars which are not insured for damage.

Reply to
Jacob Jones

While that is true, would it be a viable business model? I suspect not.

Reply to
Colin Bignell

How about welded on wings? Lots of welded on parts could be of use if undamaged.

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Dave Plowman (News

Safety standards is the correct answer. Which a bodger won't be bothered with.

Stretch limos often had a central part welded into the roof.

Just when and how an insurance company decides a car must be written off has nothing to do if it could be properly repaired or not. Just a commercial decision.

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Dave Plowman (News

Quite.

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Dave Plowman (News

Not with relatively new cars. Once older and rarer, it may be.

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Dave Plowman (News

If they are rare, would there be enough written off to make it a feasible business?

Reply to
Colin Bignell

Still bodyshell IMO and probably not easy to remove undamaged anyway.

Reply to
Colin Bignell

Maybe not for most cars, but certainly for ones that are of sentimental, historical or rarity value.

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Steve Walker

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