But, on a quick search of the site, I can't see any info about whether these things support all the levels of security likely to be needed on a home network.
Maybe I've misunderstood, but the question is whether they support WPA2, or do you have to downgrade your network to accommodate them?
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D.M.Chapman
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WPA, WPA2 and WEP supports. I assume that PSK only, and WPA enterprise is unlikely :-)
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Tim Watts
Good question...
Manufacturer seems to be this:
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Found this:
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The interesting question is *how* you give it the passphrase. The only way I can see is allow it to connect to an insecure network with DHCP, then reprogram it from there. Or it supports this new funky "press a button" plug and play feature modern WIFI APs sometimes have - never used that.
Or - the bulb acts an an AP for a bit (it does say they can mesh)
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So - it seem to be OK on WPA2 but I'm not totally sure how they work...
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Tim Watts
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Tim Watts
Also a CRI of 89
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And they support firmware updates. I can see the LEDs blowing up before that happens :)
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Tim Watts
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Look at 7:40
spoiler: Lamp makes an AP called "Lifx Bulb" with a simple password...
anyway - interesting video...
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Michael Chare
Presumably it uses a different network, like my phone does when it acts as a hotspot. If there is no security, then maybe a neighbour or a passer by could alter the setting.
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Tim Watts
AFAICS it hotspots just for the time it takes for you to tell it how to connect to your home WIFI.
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Michael Chare
I think that your are right - now that I have watched the video!
I was amused by the use of an electric screwdriver in that situation.
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Tim Watts
The review is pretty good - especially the brightness of the lamp.
It occurred to me that they must be using a pretty fancy WIFI chipset for that if it handles meshing, being an AP and a client.
What it does not need to do is handle 802.11n at full pelt.
So I am wondering if one of the chip makers will come up with a "lite" chipset that lends itself to this type of application whilst being slow and simple in as many respects as possible.
I can see this sort of application becoming "interesting" and if it gets interesting enough the price could well drop right back to something cheaper.
Engineering aside, I think this approach has much more chance of catching on than things based on proprietary radio protocols[1] or weird ones like Zigbee. WIFI is ubiquitous, and is very backwards compatible and no need for shelling out for a LAN interface box.
[1] with the possible exception of really simple paired devices like doorbells.
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Michael Chare
Well mobile phones have this sort of capability. I also bought a Camera about a year ago which has both GPS and Wifi which did not add greatly to the cost. I don't find the Wifi very useful. I would be more impressed if my washing machine had better diagnostics.
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Tim Watts
Went into Maplins on the Strand (London) as I was passing this morning - they had one plugged in.
Sadly they could not demonstrate it as whilst my phone's app was able to see it (It does indeed show up as a base station with a funny ESSID), the app would not proceed until the bulb was reconfigured with a "home Wifi network" - which of course they did not have.
I did tell them they'd probably get away with running a standalone AP next to it just for demo purposes.
But I expect that will escape them - I do despair. £80 ("only" according to the sign) lightbulb and they cannot even rig up a work demonstration.
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whisky-dave
As long as no one mentions One Direction, pass the spliff son.
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whisky-dave
Well you wouldn;t need to re-find your cable everytime like I do.
Well you should have thought about that before you proposed to her :-)
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D.M.Chapman
John lewis at bluewater had something similar on demo the other week.
Next to it they had an ipad (or similar) that let you play with it. Didn't pay much attention tbh but it was possibly this
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Looks like those bulbs at 30 quid each - they also seem to have wierd Speaker bulbs as well (no idea...)
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whisky-dave
so it's £89 for two or £30 each... am I missing something here. perhaps it's because when buying 2 you get the free controller shown but i' s not clear to me.
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