On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:04:45 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:
It can be done, I've done it (50 mile round trip to nearest plumbers
merchant or DIY shed(*)). Once you have the fitting off, flux it
well, get it well hot, add more solder, then knock it out by knocking
the holding pliers firmly against something with the open end of the
fitting in line with direction of travel. Most of the solder will
come out. With a 22 mm fitting a slighly damp cloth can be used to
wipe the rest out, 15 mm are too small to get a finger safely in...
You may still have to use some abrasive paper to remove the last few
thou and/or the same on the recipient pipe to get a fit.
(*) We now have a hardware store in the town that carry the very
common plumbing bits, only a 5 mile round trip. B-)
Perfectly possible with enough heat. Not something you'd try and do in a
confined space, though.
Anything which is soldered together can be unsoldered. And the copper
ain't going to get damaged - unless you do so by trying to separate it
before the solder is melted.
*Verbs HAS to agree with their subjects *
Dave Plowman firstname.lastname@example.org London SW
Just to be clear, you think that honey is a secretion from the nasal mucosa
Or are you being a reseller of ironing boards made specifically for gnomes?
Yes, like, whatever.
Care to compare the total cost?
Last time I checked 50m of 15mm copper tube was £150.
For 50m of 16mm PEX-AL-PEX it was £50.
Fittings seem to range from 50p to £1.00 depending in size, type and
material. You can buy a lot of fittings for £100.
Are you spoiling for yet another pointless argument BTW? If so I'm not
Where I work, when moving into a new build factory/office they had two
push fit joints fail within two years with the release of a lot of water.
After the second failure the company had the maintenance team in for a
weekend solely to check all the push fit joints. All plumbing was
relatively easily accessible under raised floors and suspended ceilings.
Possibly the failure of a couple of push fit joints in thousands is no
different from the failure expected in other methods of jointing.
On Saturday, August 3, 2013 5:18:58 PM UTC+1, alan wrote:
I've never seen a properly soldered joint that had failed.
Badly soldered, elbow worn through, dripping compression joints, etc., but never a good soldered joint.
Plumbers usually use end-feed in their own houses.
Trouble is the falure mode of push fit plastic tends to be the pipe
popping right out of the joint or the O ring giving up, both of which
either produce a lot of water or a fair amount of water.
Compression failure mode tends to be just a weep. Solder rarely
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