Another apprentice late for work

Aug 18, 2021 Last reply: 4 years ago 28 Replies

Pulled up outside his house at 6.40am and left at 6.46am.



Got a text at 6.53am asking if I was having problems finding the house as it's a new housing estate.



I replied that I had been and gone.



He then replied I must have been at the wrong house as he was stood outside waiting for me.



Well it's the same f****ng house I dropped him off at 3 months ago.


My impression is that the apprentices don't reduce your workload significantly, compared to the effort involved in dealing with them?

Depends which ones.

Just lost a 4th year that was as much use as a 1st year (he did not do 4 years with us).

Got another 4th year just as bad (only been with us 8 months)

Got a newly qualified 5th year that is as good as me on new builds and commercial installations - actually he is probably better than me at them IMHO.

He just needs to learn a little more on the older electrics/installations that he might come across and I will have done my job.

Well I do have one[1]. But it's much easier than that.

The van tracker logs every ignition on/off start time and knows where I am. I turned the engine off when I got there and turned it on when I left.

Oddly enough it was outside his house:-)

[1] Used against the other little s*it who was late as that van had no tracker. Our dash cams can have their time altered and only run on an internal clock not a GPS clock, but the 7.00am Radio Two news is broadcast at what time?

Ah the invisible man want you, tell him I can't see him. Brian

Jeez, 5 years to learn how to do electrical wiring?

FFS, it's isn't bloody nuclear physics!

No wonder few people want to do it

Is it because many of those that do, need 5 years to learn something that most people could in 5 months (or less) ?.

Traditionally an apprenticeship took 7 years. But maybe that was because the tradesmen used apprentices as cheap labour - the apprentice (or his family) had to pay.

Are you quite sure about that? There's a link to the regs here:

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560 pages.

Plus, the guidance notes.

If you want to do some testing, you'd better read 150+ pages of this guidance note first:

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And so on.

It took me 3 days to get my C&G 17th Edition cert.

One notifiable install and a separate non-notifiable work would have got me into NIC.

But 5 years? FFS

Bear in mind Adam's apprentices are starting from the "this is a screwdriver. It has two ends." level of competence.

I woudln't be surprised if some of them turn up for interview wearing velcro'd trainers and have to be gently introduced to shoelaces.

Owain

It was the necessity of adopting this approach with a Zulu workforce that disabused me of racism.

White working class lads are equally as thick and lazy.

He is a 5th year now as it's end of 4th year. So bang on time getting his AM2 at the end of his 4th year. They spend three years at college and a year fully on site before taking their AM2.

well yes, so was I in my job

but I did that at full wages, not as a 20 pounds a week apprentice.

Surely becoming significantly competent to be let out on you own to do bog standard stuff can't take more than 2 years

NMW/NLW if past their first year and aged 19+ so for 35 hours minimum from £229.60 to £292.60 at 21 to £311.85 at 23.

Bit beyond the £4-8s I got for 37.5 hours!

What's wrong with velcroed trainers, i wear them myself.

They are much better than laced ones. IMHO

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