And after making the phone call.......

It starts at school. When our local Primary had OFSTED coming, the headmistress wrote to all parents, requesting they got their children to school on time ! Too many teachers no longer understand, that this kind of thing is PART of an education.

Andy C

Is this one big master plan perhaps to then go the other way and introduce compulsory national Service? after all soon there will be no armed forces, just territorial and a pile of outdated wrong gear to use. Brian

Parents, not teachers, are the problem. Well parent in most cases...

I can recall the local rag mentioning one local school whose parents were to wear clothes and not dressing gowns when dropping their kids at school and later also asking then to stop drinking alcohol when picking them up from school

'earlier'....haha. Geddit?

Of course that's fundamentally true, but to pull them into line as with any other walk of life, you have to have sanctions. All the time the schools don't insist, it wont happen. As I say, an education consists of more than the three Rs.

Loved the Knocker upper link. Seems it's still a profession:-)

I only have one problem with benefit payments. And that proplem is that some people see them as an ambition and not as a fallback for hard times.

They combine together. We know someone who's the head of a school. If it isn't the pupils its their parents, and if its not them its the education authority..

A very well stressed person;(..

In article , Nick Odell scribeth thus

"Knocking up" was a long established tradition borne of necessity in the mines and railways where people had to be up very early, sometimes around 3 or 4 am...