The other day at a traffic light, a convertible passed in front of me
with some gizmo atop the windshield, attached to the frame. A
spoiler is the closest name I can think of.
Googling doesn't show me anything close. Has anyone here seen such a
thing? Maybe spoiler is the wrong word and that's why I can't find
Maybe I want one.
Feel free to skip historical narrative:
With my '65 and '67 Catalinas, I could open the vent windows so far
that they blew air into the passenger compartment, and I could turn
the sun visors up and forward so that they did the same thing. And
both had big fresh air vents to the left of driver ankles and to the
right of passenger ankles, even the '67 that had factory air. IOW, I
could get a lot more fresh air than I can now, even with the top down.
So maybe I want this thing.
Sunday, I was 90 miles west of here near some little town and as
usual, I bought the local newspaper. It had a front page story about
a congressional primary not yet settled, maybe in nearyby Pa. I left
the advertising section behind and put the rest in the back seat, left
side. I was going only 20 or 30 for the next hour but the paper was
gone. OTOH, the Wash. Post underneath it was still there. Usually if
something tries to blow out of the car, especially a full size piece
of newsprint, I see it in the rear view mirror. Today I found the
whole section intact stuffed near the rear floor left side.
On Mon, 09 May 2016 23:34:59 -0400, email@example.com wrote:
Thanks. I'll remember that. I still couldn't find one mounted above
the windshield, but that's okay, at least I gave it a good shot and
I've lost interest.
At speeds over 50 I often put up the windows, and I rarely go over 65,
too much noise.
I had one convertible many years ago and it was fun to have back then.
About 3 days a year I'd still like to have one. The other 362 days a
year the windows are up and the climate control is set at 72. Quiet,
nice sound from the XM radio, no wind noise.
On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 7:13:30 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
I was watching a commercial for the 2016 Buick Cascada. The top can be
raised or lowered at speeds up to 31 MPH. Having never owned a convertible,
this leads me to ask:
Is 31 MPH an slight improvement over other convertibles or a major improvement?
In other words, is there a speed at which other convertible tops can be
raised/lowered or has it always been required that the vehicle be stopped?
On Tue, 10 May 2016 05:53:17 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
That's pretty fast.
No convertible that I know of had any limit on speed until I got this
2000 Toyota Solara. Its limit was about 2 or 3 mph and it was an
enormous nuisance. I bought the shop manual and the convertible
supplement, but the relay was shown only vaguely. I asked dealers
where it was and two of them asked their mechanic but no one knew. I
was also looking behind the back seat and under the fuzzy walls of the
trunk and I eventually found it, behind the seat but accessible from
I could barely reach it and I couldn't fit in the trunk to get closer.
I could barely see it while I reached for it, but I did my best to cut
just the right wire, and I cut it, and now there is no speed limit on
putting it up and down.
I get stuck in the rain less than every 10 years, but I don't like
waiting when I'm going out to put the top down so I unlatch it, then
drive off while lowering it. Then when I get home, I start putting
the top up when I'm about 200 feet away from parking. Not driving
more than 15 or 20 mph either time, I think. I'll check.
I was afraid to raise or lower the top while moving for the first 10
years, but that ended 40 years ago, and never had a problem.
** I mostly know the '65 and '67 Pontiac, the '73 Buick, and the '84,
'88, and '95 Lebaron.
Putting the top up (or down) with the car at any speed at all is NOT
a good idea. A stiff crosswind will show you why in a hurry - and
lighten your wallet getting it repaired.
My personal experience with retractible tops is limited to a 65
Pontiac Parisienne MG B, Jeep CJ and a Sunbeam Alpine - but I've had
to work on quite a number of others - both power and otherwize
On Tue, 10 May 2016 17:50:13 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Maybe I'm only going 10mph. I'll check in a few minutes if I
remember, but it's not enough to fully bulge out the fabric let alone
bend anything. I've been doing this for 40 years, iow 1000's of
times, and 6 cars, so I'm sure.
But other than your own, you only see the broken cars.
No, I serviced a lot of cars that were not broken - customer list of
vehicles I saw 3 or more times a year for regular maintenance was well
over 600 - plus all the ones I saw once or twice a year - or only
once. - and that was at my last job in "the business"
The two jobs before that were general repair shops - I was usually
the only mechanic - sometimes with an apprentice and often 5 - 7 cars
in one day - othertimes only one really twisted one for a day or two
You can be like my father in law. He had a thing for Checkers and
Batman. He'd come down the alley, hit the garage door opener, and drive
into his bat cave while the door was still retracting. One evening his
timing was off. Didn't bother the Checker but the lower panel of the
door was never quite the same.
I did remember (for a change). I was going 15 on my way out, and 15
or 16 on my way back.
As to getting stuck in the rain, two occasions were by far the worst
(not counting when I was in jail). When I moved to Baltimore I
forgot one special piece of metal, so I drove back to NYC and since
the car was empty, I decided to take all the scrap wood (the only
other thing I left behind). I made it all the way to Baltimore, 150
miles, and was 5 miles from home when the rain poured and I had to
hide under an overpass until it stopped. The wood was in the way of
putting the top back up.
Another time on the way to Texas I was on I-81 going south in western
Va. and it started to rain, but this was when my top motor required
hitting to get the motor to start, and this time, I banged it a lot
with a wrench but it just wouldn't. And traffic was stalled on the
interstate. I just say in the car in the rain for 5 minutes until the
traffic started moving. I wonder what the guy 3 feet behind me
thought. But everything dried out.
The top went up and down for the rest of the vacation only having
to be hit not at all or sometimes 3 or 4 times.
On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 10:03:11 AM UTC-4, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
At 0:25 of this commercial, the text reads:
"Roof operates at speeds up to 31 MPH. Pretty cool, right!"
Aside from the fact that I think they should have used a question mark, not
an exclamation point, they seem very proud of that feature.
When I first noticed the small print on the screen, I expected it to say
something like "Dramatization only. Do not operate roof while vehicle is in
I was quite surprised to see that the small print wasn't your typical
disclaimer, but actually a brag.
On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 9:11:14 AM UTC-4, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
I'd blame more on the expense of the feature vs. the limited usage time, as well as the practicality. As the market appeal for SUV's continues to grow,
the appeal of the convertible goes in the opposite direction.
Factor in the growing markets in India and China, where the concept of
"open air" brings up images of gas masks as opposed to rolling country roads,
and you can imagine the appeal dropping even further.
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