Will this tool break up a blig blob of cement/concrete?

Feb 04, 2020 27 Replies

A couple years ago a contractor for a neighbor redid her steps or terraced garden and left a big pile of cement/concrete? in the woods next to my house. IIRC it's about the size and shape of baby's high chair. A bar stool, I guess.



I want to break it up so it's light enough to take to the trash.



It has a few small crevices in it where he added more to what was already there, I guess. (I sort of hoped rain would freeze and it would break up itself, but there is been almost no freezing weather.)



Is this the sort of tool I would use?



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This seems simlar and it rents from HD at $47.00 for 4-Hour (Minimum) or $268.00 Per Week
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The rental store is nearby but still only if I were lucky could I finish in 4 hours so we're talking about $47, 94 or more if I run out of energy.



But on the CBC** they just did a story about tool share organization, and by golly there is one here. They charge 3% of the retail value of the tool, get this, per week. And they value the "Demolition/rotary hammer kit" at $735 so the rental is $22, get this, per week.



Any day next summer is good for me, so I should be able to get one, but is this the right kind of tool???


There are two actually, but it seems but the other one only has this, a Hilti TE15, probably in better condition than

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Would this do it? It also has open shop 12 hours a week. There used to be something I wanted to do I didn't have the tools for. I'll think of it eventually.



The first place only allows associations such as HOAs to join, but the second seems to take individuals.



This is a new thing. Maybe your city has one too.


**Clare, I've been listening to the CBC part-time for 2 weeks now, ever since I got my new radio which connects by wire to my PC.

What do you think of the CBC?

Either of those electric hammers will do the job - slowly. Rent - don't buy. Hilti or Kango are the big names.

I like it a lot. Interesting. RadioMaximus has 100's of pre-loaded stations I could listen to, and this is the one I listen to most, not counting WAMU, C-Span, and one music station, plus WYPR on a real radio. A lot about First Nations, esp. compared to the US where there is just about nothing. For years I've been listening to "As it Happpens", which is on at 11PM ET on WAMU, a DC NPR station. (Though it's not on tonight because the Iowa caucus is today.)

What got me to buy a new radio was that WAMU's antenna is being replaced for 4 weeks starting 3 weeks ago, and I found I can't get it with their more distant temporary antenna. And I wanted to listen to WAMU, including As It Happens if I went to bed when it was on, which I often do**.

I think I recognize Carol Off's voice on some other show, narrowcast straight from Calgary. I listen on RadioMaximus for the PC, and I ran a wire to the AUX jack of the new radio.

That would be why I need a week and 4 hours is not enough.

The Hilti is at the 2nd place, which charges annual dues but nothing for tool rental.

The make or model is not given at the first place. They only allow charitable or non-profit organizations to join, but that includes an HOA, and by chance I just got elected to the Board, and I get along well with the President, who has to agree to this. After that, they charge per tool, 3% of retail value per week. Only allowed two weeks.

When I first bought this house but before I left NY, I had fantasies of their being a tool-share for the HOA. When I got there, I found we don't own the slightest amount of space to store tools. The first places lends all kinds of little things like putty knives.

The second place requires one to take a safety course to borrow anything iiuc.

The first place has one hit in google. The second place has 20.

The first place will be happy to accept donation of money.

The second place will be happy to accept money or tools, so if they're still in business when I die, I'll have a place to give my tools. My tools are not so great, but at least they'd get used.

I can't believe the first one wouldn't want tools too.

How old is this concrete? You might just need one of these

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I tried that already. Truly. Not Wilton, some other brand. It didn't even chip it, although when I saw it would never be enough, I didn't try many times.

By this summer it will be 2 or 3 years old. That stuff gets harder every year, doesn't it. At leat that's what they told me on the tour of the Panama Canal.

You need to listen to "this and that", and "the Debaters" and "Quirks and Quarks" Laugh Out Loud too, and if you get into the archives you can't beat "The Royal Canadian Air Farce" and "The vinyl Cafe" with Bob McLean. Or way back to Nitwit Court

A diamond blade on an angle driver and a good wedge can make the sledge a lot more effective. Concrete has a high compressive strength but its tensile is pretty poor. About 10 to 1.

I have** a round "wedge" that I think is meant for splitting wood. That would be too soft for this, right? (I can't find one like it online.)

I have a railroad spike. Also too soft, right?

**The guy I bought the house from left a lot of things for me. He thought Baltimore was too cold, so he was transferring to New Orleans where he was from. He said if he moved straight there, he would leave the dining room table, and if he moved to an apartment first, he'd leave the garden stuff. I told him, Don't throw anything away. Anything you leave and I can't use, I'll take to Goodwill. But almost everything he left, I was really glad to have.

I think he left the sledge hammer too, and I've used that quite a bit.

I don't understand this practice of removing everything except the storm windows.

That looks too much like work and it doesn't make nearly enough noise.

It was very effective at knocking out 50 year old box stalls when I was a 14 year old kid. The sledge hammer weighed half as much as I did, and the concrete was pretty high strength stuff.

Got any neighborhood kids?

Post a message, FB or whatever they use. $20 says you can't break this chunk in less than 30 minutes. All pieces must fit in a one gallon bucket. $2 extra per minute under 30.

N'hood kids are a good idea.

And the incentive idea is good.

OTOH, alas, I won't be able to make the bystanders wear goggles and I'll be liable when a piece of cement flies into someone's eye.

And I can't let them use the power drill.

But I've got other chores kids could do.

That is not going to be easy to break up. Your best bet is to hire someone to haul it away or bury it.

Whose property is it on?

Why didn't force the contractor to dispose of it properly back then?

Rather than pictures of tools, picture of the concrete would be more useful here.

The whole thing ticks me off. There have been other things, 2x4 scraps, left in my** woods, but this time I saw the guy, and I followed him to the home he was hired by. I know the woman, an old, well dressed, seemingly refined woman. Have known her hi-and-bye for 30 years, and the contractor goes to the door and asks to be paid. I'm right behind him telling her what he did, and asking her not to pay until he removes the scrap. I couldn't hear what she said but from his replies I don't think she gave the slightest objection to paying him. We haven't talked since. and by now she'll probably say she doesn't remember. She probably won't rememmber. She's 78 or more, I think.

So that's why I resent spending money, but to rent the tool I can pretend to be a demo guy for one day.

If I can't do it, it's a stream bed when it rains. Does that mean it's just dirt, or will there be bigg rocks as soon as someone digs?

**(The woods are not mine but they feel like they are. Everyone is free too, but I'm the only neighbor who goes down there to look at the plants, the stream, the birds, peace and quiet, etc. The woods are the reason I chose this house. I was going to try to name the island (after myself) and send it in to Google, but Google wants supporting evidence.)

Oops. Thst's wetlands so you'll have to do an environmental study and get EPA approval before you modify it. Or maybe you'll luck out and Trump's relaxing of the EPA standards will save your bacon.

Dig hole next to it.

Tip concrete into the hole.

Problem solved.

Oh wait, now we have a pile of dirt. Okay, dig another hole. Throw dirt into it.

Problem solved.

Oh wait..................

Or just rake the dirt out and let nature take it away.

Wasn't there a movie where they solved this problem by filling their pockets with dirt, then slowly letting it fall down inside their pant legs as they walked around the prison compound. Stalag 17?

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