Why is my garden hose dirty?

Jul 01, 2021 Last reply: 5 years ago 24 Replies

I have a hose reel, 38 years old, with two pretty long hoses on it. Today for the first time in 10 or maybe even 20 years I unrolled the whole thing. The top layers, in fact the entire top hose, is clean, but the bottom hose is covered in a layer of black dirt. It comes off on my hands but spraying water on it only removes a little of it.



Why is there dirt so far inside but none on the other hose, most of which never gets unrolled either? Is it something growing like mold or amoebas?


(My reel started leaking 10 years ago and since then I've been either trying to fix it or looking for a replacement reel.



It's all aluminum and it has a hole in main pipe that sprays water over me and my storage area next to it.



As I usually do, I saved some printed material or the box it came in. If a box is big, I put it in the attic (which isn't useful for actual living, only trusses, a makeshift floor over part of it (made up of plywood, 16"x8feet, the largest boards I could get through the hatch, not nailed in place, just lying on the trusses), TV antennas, plus a radio and a tv and a phone for when I used to spend time doing things there. ).



After hunting at local stores and online for an exact replacement, I got the box from the attic and used the manufacturer to hunt for an exact replacement. No luck. I dont' think I even found the manufacturer. Everything is plastic now, almost no metal, and certainly not one like this.



None of the replacement reels appeal to me. Any that attach to the wall would mean added holes in the mortar, and I don't like them anyhow. The ones that dont' attach have other disadvantages.



I made a rubber patch and put it on with a worm-gear hose clamp, but it burst the rubber or leaked through or something. I thought about soldering a patch, but that would take removal from the wall, complete drying, and I still don't think soldering aluminum would be easy, so it's a last choice.



The new plan is Flextape, which came in the mail yesterday. I'll let you know if it works.



It also sprays water where the first hose attaches to the reel. I think that's a problem with the hose, but it might be damage to the reel and it's easier to try Flextape first.



The leftover Flextape might be useful to patch the holes in the floor of my first rubber raft. When I first got those holes 30 years ago, there was no good way to fix them, I think. Remains to be seen if there is now.)


Oops. Good to know.

They can repair aluminum? I'll call someone.

Black mold. Some people get a really bad reaction to it.

I guess I'll try harder to get rid of it. I'll put a better sprayer end on the hose, or whatever you call the single narrow stream. If that doesn't work I'll use a rag to wipe it off, with bleach too. (Although I myself probably don't have any reaction, I still don't want it.).

Maybe there is some thing about the clean hose's material that supprsesses the mold's growth, although tne dirty hose seems nicer otherwise, stronger, greater diameter.

You are looking for a guy with a TIG machine (not MIG)

It's a hole. The aluminum tube just developed a leak, but I suspect much of the tube is a lot thinner than it started. Still I have to try at least one more time.

I looked at it today and the leak is the same place I put rubber patch and the hose clamp, which sort of contradicts my idea that it's thin in a lot of places, because if it were getting thinnrt, 5 or 10 years later it woudl be leaking in a lot of places.

Yeah, right. To fix a junko old hose reel instead of buying a new one or some epoxy. What do you think a welder is going to charge?

If you have a big enough container a splash of bleach in a tub of water will make that mold go away if you soak it overnight. It doesn't take a lot if you soak it. Even "pool strength" water will do it. (3PPM or so). I throw my boat cushions, lines and fenders in the pool, weighted down and the next day they are shiny white.

A decent plastic hose reel will last 10-15 years in the Florida sun. I am not sure what you expect. I have lots of hose reels. I have water and power scattered all around the property.

I'm not complaining that it wasn't made well.

I had no special expectation when I bought it. Now that I have it, I want to fix it. Home repair.

Good for you.

Since those pipe reel tubes are so thin , ask the weldor to show you a sample of his work on thin sections . If he can TIG a couple of beer cans together (bottom to bottom) he can most likely repair your holes . I ain't that good and might never be . Or he could just clamp a piece of aluminum flashing over the hole after smearing both tube and patch liberally with JB Weld . Sand both pieces lightly JUST BEFORE you stick it on , if you don't remove the oxide layer it won't stick .

I have seen some demonstrations of aluminum brazing. They heat the aluminum up and use a stick of about 1/8 inch in diameter and melt it over the hole or put two cans together with it. There seems to be a very small heat range between the melting of the rod and the melting of the work.

He seems to be emotionally attached to this one. It would be in the trash if I had it. Usually if you sit something like this on the curb a scrapper will come along and take it for the metal.

This sounds like a good idea, especially when you add the clamp. I'd thought about a glue like JBW, but even though I know it sticks, I didn't think it would stick, but the clamp could well make the difference.

Okay. I can do that!

Back around 1973 I parked my '65 Catalina and crossed the street to go to the libary. For some reason I looked back and saw a tiny shiny layer on the pavement. Gasoline was dripping, and evaporating, from what turned out to be the fuel line near/above the front left wheel well puddle. I used GE Siliocone sealant and tried to go all around the line. It seemed to work for a few weeks, maybe months, but otoh I didn't normally notice if it was leaking even before I fixed it. And then, in Brooklyn, where there is no parking when everyone is home at night, I parked in front of a store-front church that ony had services Sunday morning and Wedneday evening, and they towed away my car and the log supposedly said they had crushed it by the time I found it a day later. So I didnt' get a firm report on how good the repair was.

If there is no parking when everyone is home, where does everyone park?

It was different where I grew up in Queens. When everyone was home, there was lots of parking. You could tell by all the cars that were next to the curbs. Lots of parking was happening. All up and down the street.

What did the church's service hours have to do with your car getting towed?

I'm confused. What did you find a day later - the log or your car?

If it was the log that you found, then you should have verified that it said they had crushed you car.

If it was the car, then I guess it really didn't matter what the log said since you should have been able to verify the condition of your car just by looking at it.

Wasn't the Catalina pretty big? The kind of car we used to call a "boat"?

According to this boat related forum, your repair probably wasn't any good.

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I did some eutectic brazing on aluminum a long time ago and you had to be fast. Brazing brass is about the same, a few degrees from disaster.

On Grand Army Plaza.

Blocks away I guess. Then they walk home, carrying whatever they need to brign with them.

Oh, okay. LOL

Parking in front of it was not permitted because it was a church, even though they only had people coming twice a week.

The log entry which showed that the car had been towed to the city impound lot in Brooklyn.

That's what they said.

Never saw it again.

Yeah. I liked that. Although the car had lots of problems and I said I'd never buy another. But the next car was also a Catalina, 2 years newer, and it didn't have any of the problems the first one did. It had no problems at all. The first 7 digits of the VIN were the same, but I guess the first car was made on Friday or Monday and the second was not.

Maybe it wasn't. Not knowing was the thing that bothered me most about losing the car**, but I think I finally got over that. I think the plan was to patch it and then not worry about it until some unspecified future time a few weeks later when I would check if the patch was still in place. The gasline was pressed against or close to the fender or the engine or some metal part and it wasn't easy to get silicone all the way around it. IIRC, I just got a fairly thin layer connecting the thicker parts, whch I hoped would hold it all in place.

**Well, not having a car bothered me the most but I bought another less than a week later from somone in Queens, a '67 Catalina for $650, and after that, not knowing was what bothered me most.

After I fixed it, when I still had it, I still felt I was ahead of the game because I could have gone a long time (a longer time than I had) without even knowing there was a leak. I was lucky I looked back when I did. It dripped one drop every 2 seconds or 10 seconds or something. I didn't actually time it but based on how big the shiny area was. And I never knew if it dripped when the car was running, whenever it was parked, or only for a time after the car was turned off. It might well have been the last which means even unrepaired, the loss of gas wasn't much. This car like almost all at the time had an engine driven fuel pump that sucked the gas from the gas tank, and the leak was higher than the gas tank, plus when the engine was running there would have been negative pressure there.

Because I had a job and I lived on the fifth floor and parked on a busy street (Clinton Avenue) and working on the car just wasn't something I did much of. No good place to work; had to bring things down from upstairs. Couldn't stand on the street side of the car without risking getting hit.

I did replace the roof once, I forget which car. I bought a whole roof, metal and fabric, from someone near Hazelton Pa. and it was too big to close the convertible top when it was in the back seat, so I had to drive back to Brooklyn and take it upstairs. At least it didn't rain. I thought replacing it would be simple, just a series of bolts along the bottom from behind one rear side window around the back to the other side. But it turned out, only one hole matched up, in the center (rear). I tried for a while to do the other holes and gave up and ended up driving with it attached in the back with only one bolt, for years. :-)

And I replaced the top on the '67. I remember which car it was because the car was "mariner turquoise" and I bought a green vinyl top. Replacing the top took "all day"** and when I was done, my friend said, Why did you buy green and not blue? And I said because it's more green than blue, but he thought the opposite. Do you remember this, Paul?*** This was 40+ years ago and it happened again just a couple weeks ago, I thought something was green and another person thought it was blue. This is not red-green color blindness. I see both colors separately, and I can tell them apart, but if the color is in between, I've disagreed on those two occasions which is predominant .

**That was interesting too. I had a general policy of not tighening any screw or bolt until all were started, so I didn't have to loosen what I'd already tightened. And the rear bottom of a convertible top is shaped like a wide U. I spent an hour trying to get the bolt in at one end, and finally broke down and tightened the bolts in the middle. That pulled the hole on the side back so that it went in easily. One shouldn't be too committed to any single rule! ***Here are some picturs of similar '67 Pontiacs.
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Assuming you see the same array, the 2nd picture in the second row looks right, and it looks mostly green, but the 3rd picture in the third row and the 2nd picture in the first row look mostly blue. What do you think, Paul?

So it's not the monitor that makes this difference. It could be the camera or the sunlight or maybe something I don't know about. But of course with my friend, there was no monitor, no camera, and the sunlight was the same for both of us. It was our eyes or our brains, or even maybe our diet.

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On Thu, 01 Jul 2021 22:58:26 -0400, micky posted for all of us to digest...

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