I just bought a used set of socket wrenchs. It has both 6 and 12 point
I am guessing that 6 is stronger and 12 can be used on square heads, but
neither of those seem to justify having both. Is there a better reason?
I believe (I could be wrong, I dont remember the exact explanation I
got) that 6 point gives you more contact area, but 12 point allows you
to use "lock on" to a bolt quicker (i.e. 360 degree circle / 12 points
= 1 point at every 30 degrees, faster "hookup" onto the head than 360
degree / 6 point or 1 point at every 60 degrees).
6-pt are, indeed better for really stout needs as there is more
surface area so lest likely to round over a head or break or strip the
socket if need really high torque. 12-pt is slightly more convenient
in use as they line up at twice the locations of 6-pt.
Neither will fit square head except by happenstance -- need 4- or 8-pt
for that. Which, btw, are getting extremely difficult to find any
You're not looking. I just bought a brand new set of Craftsman 8
points off eBay.
You don't find impact wrench sockets in 12 point, its a strength
issue. 12 points are convenient for getting on the head and getting
them snug. You want torque? Use a six point.
I was speaking of new -- last I looked, Sears is no longer selling
them. Was in need of a replacement and nobody in town had any in
stock any longer whereas years ago they were quite common in farm
supply places. That's difficult enough in my book although
"extremely" may be a stretch... :)
Actually, square head bolts/nuts are in stock still at the local
farmers' co-op and supply stores. Not quite the full spectrum as used
to be, but the common implement sizes are still carried in bulk. Just
tough to get the sockets any more -- I guess 'cause except for the
occasional breakage or loss of one, all we old fogies have everything
so there's not enough to keep them.
You got me looking though, and there is one small-size set on eBay
now...I may put in a low-ball bid and if it holds, would be a backup
in the drawer...
I tried to get square head to fix up my next-door neighbor's fence
gate, to match the one that wasn't missing. Of course I didn't thy
that hard because he is only my neighbor. I think the one size
might come included with a fence latch, but if mine loosen, unlike my
neighbor, I'll save them before they fall out, so I won't be buying
Do you mean 12-pointers? No one has more cheapo sets than I and I've
never seen an 8 point. That's not even a multiple of six.
(I used to buy good, but I had too much stolen. Now that I don't have
anything stolen, I don't need any more.)
They used to sell box or end wrenches with wavy insides, designed so
the wrench wouldn't touch the corners of the heads at all, only the
middle of the sides. Did those work any better, and do they still
On Apr 17, 3:09 pm, firstname.lastname@example.org (Chris Lewis) wrote:
You must look somewhere different than I ... :) I don't recall ever
seeing a 4/8-pt socket in a 6/12-pt set. I have, for the most part,
granddad's 1/2" drive set of uncertain but at least 60 yrs of age.
Hired hand lost 9/16" while we were re-hanging the barn door rails
(hung w/ square-head lags) a couple of years ago. Near a firing
offense! :( I suspect I'll eventually find it somewhere, but if it
was dropped outside as I suspect, it'll be in bad shape when/if I do.
Hopefully he laid it down somewhere and I'll stumble on it some day
totally unexpected...anyway, it was needing replacement for it and
really needing it "now" was when I discovered they were now officially
made of unobtainium locally. I ordered a few from the Craftsman web
site and at the time there was an incomplete selection as they were
closing them out. I'd been kicking myself of random occasions since
for not having gotten a spare of what they did have...
A wire wheel on a bench grinder will clean it right up. I would try
not to let the wire touch my flesh, but I've failed at that a couple
times, and it didn't even do any damage to me.
You can get a little bit into the socket with the wire wheel, but I
they sell special brushes for drills that will do the inside if you
need it. (I haven't gottten to that point yet.)
Despite a jocular post in another thread, I haven't had anything
ripped out of my hands, but maybe I'm careful enough.
BTW, I'm only posting this because I do expect you to find it. It
might take a few years, but still. (Metal detector?)
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