On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 20:16:35 -0600, rbowman wrote:
Through my title company, I traced the road back to the fifties and
sixties, where it was just a trail. There are easements only for utility
companies whom I'm in contact with - so this is progress.
In addition, I am in contact with the park service (although this must be
their vacation week because more than half the calls come back saying they
are out on vacation).
Both the utility company and park service are willing to work with us, so,
we're making great progress moving forward with consistent signage.
I'm now realizing my entire approach was wrong to block the road in that
it's not the most effective way to getting the point across that
trespassers should not trespass.
The correct approach is:
a. Sign the road
b. Correct the maps
c. Get all affected parties involved
We have Knox boxes on the road gates at the trail entrance.
I don't have a lot of money so I'm hoping my main cost will only be for the
signs, which will cost me around $1,000 (give or take) and where my
neighbors "may" pitch in (I'm not asking them to since I'm only going to
sign my land and I'll let them volunteer their land for signs.)
Okay. There are some trails around here where you'd swear you're walking
into the guy's backyard for a barbecue. I mean you literally walk down
next to the driveway and garage and keep on going to the public land.
The trails were there before the residential areas and they're still
there. They can be tricky to find unless you're coming off the public
That's a crazy question.
Let's say I bought a house with a leak in the pool or the fence in the
Am I never supposed to fix that leak or move that fence just because the
house came with the leak and fence?
Huh? Where are you going with that.
All the signs are on my property, and they have been there since the
beginning of time (from my perspective).
The entire property is mine, so, I can change any sign I want that isn't in
the county ROW. But that's not the point because I am expressly asking the
county of they'll put up the required signage for us (I'll let you know if
On Sun, 24 Jul 2016 10:09:53 -0500, Dean Hoffman wrote:
I don't understand your question about having an "address sign" for the
place. The drive serves a handful of homes only but there are trails at the
end that a lot of bikers and hikers use that skirt out back behind people's
property (all in private land). Eventually it connects to a public park, so
most of the traffic is people coming from the public park in the opposite
direction of cars which would be going down the road just to 'explore' it
(since it's a dead end of only about 1/2 mile long).
There "is" a standard-looking street sign, put up by the county, at the
junction with the public road and a 30x30 amber rectangle (mounted with the
points up and down and to the side) saying "No Through Traffic".
I was thinking of replacing the No Through Traffic sign with a "No Public
Access" sign, but the back of the sign has a sticker saying it's a county
sign and that it's a criminal offense to remove the sign.
install a remote controlled gate, operated by a garage door opener control. install a touchpad for access if someone doesnt have a remote.
or install a vehicle detector, if it senses a vehicle it sounds a alarm and flashes some strobe lights......
I would suggest you put a gate (sure, there is the cost).
Most bikers and hikers will be there on the weekends. The post office
does not deliver mail on Sundays, so no problem with a gate on Sundays.
You will likely know the approximate time of mail deliveries on
Saturdays, so stake it out and open the gate for the mail carrier. Once
delivered, you can leave the gate closed.
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