About two years ago, the signpost in this photo cost over £500 (to supply & fit the sign and pole). There's got to be some overcharging but I'd like to get a rough idea of how much.
Could you give an estimate of the approx cost for the following. Details are given below.
(a) buy this sign and the post? (b) have it fixed in the ground?
These guys may be able to produce the sign and then either fit it yourself or get any local handyman to do it for you. A quick guess of £100:00 ish to fix?
£500 .......Someone saw someone else coming . Who does the sign belong to .Council?
That other sign" Private Road .No Entry" Why is it in front of someone's garden .....These sort of signs make you want to drive right past them ignoring what they say ..:-)
belong to the private flats! Here's a long shot showing the signs and the road. That wide "Private Road No Entry Sign" is definitely wrong.
However, the newer "Security Post" sign is NOT much better placed. At first I personally thought "Security Post" referred to where the secure mail van should drive to delivered secure post!
In fact, "security post" refers to a parking post. I've painted it in yellow in the second link. The actual post will be be one of these:
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Apart from the amazing £500 bill, how many posters agree or disagree that the post is not right because ...
(a) the "security post" sign is in the wrong place. If wrong then is it important?
(b) the sign looks like an info sign and not a warning sign. If wrong then is it important?
(c) the wording "security post" with an arrow does not make clear it is a warning to avoid a ground post. If so then is it important?
(d) the wording "security post" with an arrow suggests driver can go safely in the direction of the arrow. If so then is it important?
OR ...
(e) stop fussing. It's not brilliant but it's perfectly adequate.
Hi there Geoff. You're right it does not make a lot of difference unless you are the driver of a car that hits the poorly marked pillar and whos insurance argues the sign is inadequate.
Or have to pay your own money towards the rip-off pillar and its replacment.
I take it you're not a householder and are free of these sorts of worries! I wish I could be too!. Anyway, I'll mark your reply as an (e) if that's ok with you.
For a full sized road traffic sign, then yes, it would be worth it. But not for what you have there.
I think the sign should have been a triangle warning with a simple car and Red Stripe through it. Or a red triangular sign with "STOP" at the top and "Barrier in use" underneath it, would have been more informative. Which, as every driver in the group will know, means "no cars through this point".
Yes. It is important.
Yes, it does look more like an informational sign, like the other telling you of the Private Road. As it's a warning, it needs to look like a road traffic warning.
It is important to get the road signs correct for the job.
See reply to questions (a) and (b), and it is still important.
See my answer to questions (a), (b) and (c), and it is, even still, important.
I don't think I would use the sign you have. If it was informing me of an object that may damage my vehicle, then something like a proper road traffic sign would be best. Something that says "STOP Parking Barrier in use" right in front of the hedge beside the post, and at a normal height for drivers to see, and on a big red triangular warning sign, I think would be more efficient and safe.
On first look at the pictures in your links, I thought you had a little man in a Security Box, who wears a bright yellow jacket and flat hat, and who directed traffic on the site. I didn't think it was a great lump of metal in the middle of the road and fixed into the ground.
£500 seems quite reasonable to me. It is a one-off sign, made to a reasonably sturdy standard for use outside, and will be expected to last 10+ years. If you dont like what has been charged, then get a residents meeting up to change the management company to one that is more profligate.
Then move house. The market is quiet, so reduce the price, and it will sell. Further along the chain, people will reduce their price for you as well, so you will not lose out. If you are renting, then give notice when your term is up. Alan.
That is what I thought as well, definately not a post in the middle of the road. Even with the later wider view images I still think it refers to some form of manned "check point".
The sign needs to be some reasonable approximation to a the normal road traffic warning sign, a red bordered triangle. What pictogram you have in the triangle I'm not sure but having looked through:
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only thing I can see that is suitable is the exclamtion mark and a plate saying something but not "Security Post"...
It also needs to be adjacent to and preferably before the post.
As for the post itself I can see it spending most of the time unlocked lying down as people will get fed up getting their car out of the lock up, driving to the post stopping, getting out, unlocking post, driving through, getting out, locking post, getting back in. Particulary in the rain...
Why put up a warning sign at all? Why not attach a highly visible reflective strip to the actual post. There have been surveys that said that too many road signs were counter productive and this one warning about a post looks like it may be one of them.
Hello Alan. I am inclined to think the pillar is rather expensive and my original message asks about that.
Your suggestions about the property market etc are not only extreme but make incorrect assumptions about the situation. I'm recently responsible for jointly running the maintenance company and wish to hear other views about recent payments it has made.
You write that you consider the costs to be "quite reasonable". That's all. Thank you.
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