How much to buy and fix this sign?

[EssG]

On Sun 23 Nov08 10:01, Dave Liquorice wrote in :

Your points are valueable. Thank you. To be honest, I hadn't thought of "security post" as referring to a manned box but I can see how it might do!

Personally, I think the arrow in the sign is a misleading feature as it that vehicles should go and travel in that direction.

The arrow probably got included because the sign is too far from the actual obstacle it tries to describe. Here are my picture links again:

I too feel it is important and is not just nitpicking. I can see a visitor's insurance company one day making a claim for damage to their vehicle for an unexpected and poorly visible pillar with an inadequate warning sign.

[EssG]

The post will have a yellow reflective band stuck on it. But your idea of a proper reflector is much better.

In fact, maybe the post could have a smallish reflective sign on it saying "private" as another poster suggested. I think that might be quite effective.

I think the sign was put up to act as a warning to non-residents and also to avoid liability for damage.

[fictitiousemail]

When I read your original post and saw the image saying Security Post with the arrow pointing I immediately pictured some sort of sentry box that I had to consult before I could get access to the flats so I'm guessing lots of visitors might well think the same .Would it not be better sited to the left of the actual post ( in front of that bush) so ( after dark) it would be picked out in headlights by cars turning round that right hand corner .I presume it is to prevent access to what looks like lock-ups . I've seen a few of these sort of restrictions in various places and while to residents they might well seem a good idea little consideration is usually given as to how strangers might perceive them ,especially if dreamed up by non-driving residents committee members. To me they say " I don't care if you are visiting someone who stays here .Fuck off and find somewhere else to park"

[Owain]

Powered rising bollard with radio keyfobs are what's needed.

And has access for emergency vehicles been considered?

Owain

[Owain]

Very important if someone's car (or person) gets damaged/injured as a result, which apparently has happend quite a lot of times

article also shows the warning sign of exclamation mark with the text "rising bollards"

Rising bollards are discussed in the following Traffic Advisory Leaflet

supplier of a nice range of bollardy things is I don't think I would use the sign you have. If it was informing me of an

I agree. And if it's the sort the comes up out of the ground, I think the wording is "rising bollard"

So did I.

I agree, it seems completely unsuited to the now-apparent purpose.

Owain

[Dave Liquorice]

A very good point, I think there are some rules relating to locked gates and emergency access. Like the lock has to be one the services have a master key for...

[Dave Liquorice]

I suggest that the wording and arrow has the opposite effect, it is directing strangers onto the obstruction. As you say in your other post it won't be long before a claim for damages lands on the management companies door mat.

[Gizmo.]

Seems very cheap to me !!

[Steve Firth]

I reckon it has nothing to do with transport.

[Adrian]

EssG gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

It certainly doesn't. I assumed it was giving directions to find the hut where the guards hide.

[Andy Burns]

Ditto.

[Conor]

========================= Wife works at sign making company. She reckons:

a) About £100-£120 b) No more than 2hrs labour to dig out the old one and put in the new one plus abuot £3 for pole cement.

[Bill]

Such as:-

there are plenty of barriers out there that do not use them, probably because they have become so easily available. There again it would not take more than a moment to knock one out of the way if need be.

[Steve Firth]

Each sign plate costs about £100. For the warning required the sign probably needs the hazard triangle showing an exclamation mark and a description of the hazard "Obstruction in Road" and possibly a "Private Road" sign in green with white writing. Add a post and the cost of installation and I'd be surprised to see change from £500.

The security barrier itself should have hazard reflective tape applied on both sides.

[Gizmo.]

LOL !! There's considerably more to erecting a road sign to that

[The Medway Handyman]

What would that be then?

[fictitiousemail]

Like what?

[fictitiousemail]

Leaning on a shovel while stroking ones chin and sucking air in through clenched teeth and pursed lips then muttering all the while about things not looking right !!! :-)

[Conor]

Such as? Dig out old sign, place new post in hole, fill with post concrete. Attach sign to pole.

She does this for a living and has done since 1996 so I think she's probably got more of a clue than you.

[Conor]

My missus is pissing herself laughing at you.

The metal plates cost £15 including the channelling on the back from a company called ADP Metals. There's about £5 worth of reflective background and lettering. £1 each for the retaining bolts that go into the channeling on the sign. So to do each sign, it costs the sign company around £22 in materials plus 10 minutes labour to put the reflective backing and lettering on the plate. Add 170% markup which her company does to get the sale price (270% of the cost of the materials) and you have 60p change out of £60. £20 tops for a pole and an hours labour for an oik to install it.

If you're paying £500 for that, they're taking you for a mug.