Where to get Road Stencils (huge white letters)?

I'm thinking 'some' of the residents aren't all that interested in his crusade and a gate won't fly. The local range has a actuated gate with a card reader. I'd guess it works about 50% of the time. When it doesn't you have to back up, get out, remember the combination to unlock the manual gate, open it, drive through, get out, close and lock the gate. That all makes waving to a few bicyclists as they go by look good.

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rbowman
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What part of Montana do you live? My son is heading there on business in the next couple of weeks and he's never been there before.

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Muggles

Isn't that where Brokeback Mountain is?

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Al Gore

Missoula. He'll never make it out alive... We got wolves, we got bears, we got white nationalists, we got $tarbuck$. We also got trees; if there's no trees he made a mistake and landed in Billings.

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rbowman

No kidding? I'm pretty sure that's the city he's going to ... Can I email you to get more first hand info? Probably be better to discuss via email than here.

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Muggles

I am thinking about the trail cameras. I can run a cord on the ground so electricity isn't a problem. I just want a camera that I won't cry about if it's stolen.

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Henry Jones

Thanks for that advice. I had never dealt with the GIS guys before. They didn't understand the assessor's map, so, that's strange 'cuz I can't be the only person in the entire county with a private road.

Nonetheless, they "said" they'd add the PVT attribute, and, well, that's all I can hope for.

Google is more problematic.

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Henry Jones

Moving the mailboxes would be a *final* resort, because it would only be done if there was a locked gate, which is also a final resort.

So, it's on the table, but technically, it's trivial to move the mailboxes and have a gate built - so that was never the question.

I think the question is answered though, which is that the road signs and road stencils will work nicely to provide the notice that the police suggested.

So I think the solution is at hand.

I was thinking 10 foot posts, but they cost twice as much as the signs.

Even this 8-foot u-shaped post is over forty bucks each!

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Henry Jones

I saw that but antagonizing the people down the road from me isn't my goal. So, the goal is to put up signs first. Only if the signs aren't enough, we'll gate it. But if we gate it, we have to figure out how to let the post office through. But that's the *last* thing we'll do.

The first thing is it simply put up the signs. Apparently the fence posts costs as much as the signs do:

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At Lowes, the 8 foot fench post is $25 + about 10% tax for around $27 or $28 each!

If I sink the 8 foot fence post in 3 feet, that only leaves 5 feet sticking out, which seems kind of short, don't you think?

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Henry Jones

Everyone wants a gate but nobody wants to move their mailboxes, and, one doesn't want to incur the cost of the gate at this time. So the gate is and was always the final (i.e., last) resort.

The *first* resort is to put up signs. I'm thinking 10 foot 2 inch pole, sunk in concrete.

Does that guess sound about right? I've never put in a sign post before in my entire life.

Looking up prices at Home Depot, the pole at $50 costs twice the sign!

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Henry Jones

The neighbors like their mailboxes being a half mile closer to their house than if they were at the junction with the public street.

If life were as simple as just telling them to screw their mailboxes, life would be easy indeed.

I have no need, nor desire, to make them move their mailboxes. It's not the goal.

The goal is to prevent trespassing. That has nothing to do with mailboxes.

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Henry Jones

fence off the far end of the drive.....

once people go down your private drive once and cant get to the park they will loose interest/

at you end a big sign stating the road no longer connects to the park should help too

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bob haller

I would never admit that it did connect to the park.

NO PARK ACCESS is what I would say, along with anything else about PRIVATE PROPERTY, etc.

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Taxed and Spent

Two signs:

This one...

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...along with this one.

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DerbyDad03

We're not gonna get cute. It's all gonna be California mandated signage.

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Henry Jones

We're gonna stick with the California Penal Code 602 legally mandated text.

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Henry Jones

Yup. That's *exactly* what we're doing.

Both ends of the trail will be signed by the owners of the property at both ends (since we have to work together to accomplish a solution).

We're also making it very difficult to get past the gate at the junction of the trail and the paved private road.

We're not so naive to think that nobody is going to lift their bikes over the gate - but they have to manually circumvent the block and that's why we're doing that.

I'm borrowing a hole digger as we speak ... so as to put up the posts.

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Henry Jones

Have at it.

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rbowman

Counties can have many little fiefdoms that rarely talk to each other if they're not actively trying to block each other. We do computer aided dispatch for emergency responders so it's nice to have accurate data. It can be painful replicating the county GIS's data. Like I said, some a very good, some go to work everyday trying their best not to break anything.

I don't know if Google is very involved with ownership. As long as they can show Unicorn Lane in the right place they're happy. BTW, are you on the Google street view :)

A real problem is accurate digital data is expensive to maintain. Most of it can be traced back the the census department's TIGER/Line as a distant ancestor that have been tweaked many times. Sometimes the agencies doing the edits aren't willing to share. Geodata doesn't come cheap. Imagery is even worse. Projects like Open Street Maps allow the community to make edits so their data may be better than Google's. Or worse.

I gather you're in a relatively rural area which doesn't help. Keeping downtown Sacramento accurate is a priority; rural areas not so much. You can even see that with Google's satellite views. Often new construction in town shows up rapidly. Out my way watching trees grow isn't too interesting so there will be a greater lag.

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rbowman

I don't know the back and forth with some of the cluster boxes around here. I live pretty much at the end of pavement although the road goes on for about 20 adventure filled miles before it comes back out on a maintained road. It's not private it's just rough. There's a cluster box a little past where it turns to dirt. I don't know if the residents thought it was a good idea or if the USPS said 'You want mail? This is as far as we're going." It's a contractor that does the deliveries.

It works for me. I drive by the cluster going in and out almost every day so there's no inconvenience and it's not like I'm sitting on the porch waiting for the next batch of bills and political flyers to arrive.

I can understand the resistance though. 'It's my mailbox, it's always been there' and by God it's going to stay there.'

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rbowman

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