3rd time to resend this item (sorry if the failed attempts appear too).
Set Square wrote:
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
>>After reading the news groups archives and the building regulations
>>for the past few days. I have made some (but slow) progress in the
>>design of my extension. What I have so far is:
>>My house (1960s) semi detached is 6445mm wide and 7130mm in depth
>>(excluding the porch). I have a side entrance with is 2360mm with at
>>it narrowest point (including the brick wall which I am responsible
>>for 450mm wide).
>>I have a private (I think council not back from Christmas yet) drain
>>running parallel to the back of my house, with the edge of the man
>>hole cover being 2680mm from the back of my house (and ending 3200mm
>>from the back of the house).
>>I have an old garage in the back garden, which starts 4200mm from the
>>back of the house. This will eventually be demolished, since it is
>>made on a solid slab, and I don’t want to loose any more garden this
>>will turn in the patio after the rebuild has been completed.
>>Therefore my back wall of the extension must be between 3200mm &
>>4500mm away from the house. That’s the background out of the way, but
>>I thought it might be helpful.
>>The garage will be built in the side entrance and I need it to be as
>>wide as possible.
>>Can I assume the 450mm wide brick wall that I am responsible for is on
>>my land and therefore when I remove this wall my foundations can take
>>up the space where this wall once sat ?
>>I am planning for the garage on using 100mm (building regs say 90mm
>>Min) concrete block in a single leaf wall with from end bonded at
>>least 190mm(this will also form one side of the door way. The other
>>end will be bonded to a two leaf wall which will form also contain
>>dual doors (30 minute fireproof) for access to the extension living
>>area. The regulations also say there must be piers at a maximum of
>>3000mm apart since the garage will be 7133mm long I am planning on
>>having two piers at approximately 2377mm intervals. The doors between
>>the garage and the main living area will be will have a step not less
>>that 100mm high, and any pipes entering the garage from the existing
>>house greater than 40mm will be fire proofed.
>>Dose this sound ok to every one? Have I missed anything?
>>I am still looking into the roof. I defiantly want a flat roof to stay
>>in keeping with the neighbours. I assume I can have a cold roof for
>>this un-insulated garage? Made up I guess of marine ply and multiply
>>layers of felt (3 I think).
>>The roof joists. One end is fixed to the wall I will build out of
>>The other end I assume is fixed to the house by joist hangers?
>>One answer I can’t seem to find is,
>>What do I do about the bit of the garage between the top of the door
>>frame and the roof? Does this have to be block, and if so what holds
>>it up or can it be made of wood and fastened in the same way as the
>>The garage will be built first then the extension, but while I am
>>thinking about blocks
>>The last question in this post, should I and can I use the 100mm
>>concrete blocks for the inside and outside walls of the main extension
>>which will be going across the back of the house and garage. I am
>>planning on rendering the garage and extension to ensure they are in
>>keeping with the neighbourhood.
> I'm trying to get my head round this lot - but here are a couple of
> Are you sure that the brick wall on the remote side of your side
> 450mm (18") thick? What is on the other side? You may be responsible
sorry my mistake 45mm i.e. 1 brick wide
> but I'm not sure that that necessarily means that the boundary is on
> side of it. I have a feeling that foundations (which will necessarily
> out further than the outer edge of your new garage wall) need to be
> land - so it's important to bottom out these issues.
Yes I must keep the foundations on my side of the boundary. I guess the
council will be able to tell me where the wall is actually placed. I was
thinking if the wall is on my land then that gives me an extra 45mm(got
it right this time ) to put my foundations on.
> It seems to me - from the dimensions you have stated, that the internal
> width of your garage - particularly where narrowed by the piers - may be
> insufficient to get a car in or - at any rate - to open a car door
> is in. This all needs calculating very carefully.
I have no plans to put a car in the garage. You’re quite right it’s too
narrow. I intend to use it for more of a store room basically used for
every thing a garage is used for except storing a car.
> Over the garage door, you could use a wooden frame covered by ship-lap or
> similar. Otherwise, you'd need a lintel with blocks above it.
> I don't quite understand about the manhole. Is it going to be
> extension? Is it storm or foul (or combined)?
It’s a combined drain. I was intending to put the sealable covers on,
and have a removable panel in the new floor so in the emergency when I
need to access the drains, I can simple remove the floorboards and
access the drains after removing the sealed cover.
Incidentally, getting an
> answer as to whether it is public or private may not be
> because many of the records seem to have got lost - in my area at
least - in
> the local government reorganisations in the 70's or whenever! [You'll
> probably find that if you want to build over it, it's public - but if you
> want it unblocking, it's private! <g>]
I did see it on the computers at the council when I originally checked a
year ago. The project got shelved shortly after that, and is now
returning to life again
> Your living accommodation extension will need to satisfy all the latest
> building regs with respect to thermal efficiency - which requires a high
> standard of thermal insulation. I can't quote any U values off the
top of my
> head - but I imagine that you will be required to use insulating
> the inner layer - and maybe to dry line on the inside of that.
That part I have not looked in to as yet, but i think from a brief look
your right. Just looking for further confirmation , as the regs dont
seems to be exact on the issuse.
While I’m on the subject of building regs, why are some of the PDF
documents scans of paper docs, makes it a complete pain, can't do a
search with acrobat.
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