A great start would be anywhere anyone complains about it
so all public places, townhouses, detached homes if the stench is detectable off site like a neighbors yard. smoking should be illegal around any child anyone under 21
we asa nation really need to extqunish smoking completely.
the fiancial and personal costs, are just way too high
On private property, if the owner or someone who lives there objects to
it (assume that defendant children object, like with rape).
I remember something about how someone who smoked for 40 years has spent
enough money to buy a house (and the house isn't putting poison in your
A couple of years ago, we had an election here about allowing sales of
beer and wine. I'd much rather have cigarette sales illegal.
Of course, alcohol isn't completely harmless, but at least you don't
have alcohol fumes coming out of the user and infecting others.
Research is revealing that the refined carbohydrate and its resultant diseases (metabolic syndrome) is going to bankrupt healthcare in 20 years
Type II diabetics and dementia patients are its most expensive victims.
I tend to agree. Smokers generally delay medical care until they are
on their death bed and die quickly. It is nothing compared to the cost
of the typical hypochondriacs who bleed medicare every day, linger
into their 90s and use far more medical services.
To be clear, I don't smoke but I am also not offended when people do
and I know their smoke is not harming me. Simply smelling a whiff of
smoke is harmless, it just offends a few people looking for a reason
to be offended. There seems to be a pretty long list of things that
offend these people. .
On 5/28/2016 8:23 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
"Inhalation of cigarette puff has an immediate effect on respiration by
increasing airway resistance and therefore reducing the amount of oxygen
absorbed into the body.4 Smoking causes a chronic (or long term)
swelling of mucous membranes, which also leads to increased airway
resistance. It induces chronic irritation of the respiratory lining and
wide variety of carcinogens in the cells lining the respiratory tract.
These changes lead to cancer. 5 Smoking greatly affects the lungs from
an annoying repeated cough to grave illnesses like chronic bronchitis,
emphysema and bronchial carcinoma."
"*Even a whiff of tobacco smoke* can adversely affect the body, the
"Inhaling even the smallest amount of tobacco smoke can also damage your
DNA, which can lead to cancer."
*Even brief exposure to secondhand smoke can cause heart disease and can
trigger heart attacks*."
If that is true, and it sounds like bullshit to me, what is the effect
of the carbon monoxide from lawn mowers, smoke from BBQ grills and the
pollution from wood burning stoves? Should we ban all of them too?
On 5/28/2016 10:34 PM, email@example.com wrote:
It's not good to inhale carbon monoxide, or breathe in smoke from any
source. Our lungs weren't designed to inhale those things.
Wouldn't you agree we should use caution and good sense when it comes to
exposing ourselves to such things?
That kind of smoke make people sick, too.
Fire fighters wear breathing equipment because that smoke isn't good to
breathe, either. People die from smoke inhalation, and they also have
similar physical responses to forest fire smoke that people have from
secondhand cigarette smoke.
OK fine, why aren't you campaigning to ban wood stoves, fire places
and back yard charcoal grills?
A neighbor can burn 40 pounds of wood in an evening with impunity but
if he is burning a gram of tobacco and you smell it, you go ballistic.
I doubt there is s suburb in America where you don't smell a whiff of
wood smoke in the winter or the smell of grilling meat in the summer.
By your definition, if you can smell it, you are being harmed.
When a bagel gets sideways in the toaster, do you evacuate the house
and stay in a hotel until the place is decontaminated?
On 5/29/2016 10:34 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
If you'd like to debate a different topic, start another thread. This
topic is about smokers and smoking, right?
Moving the goal posts and trying to change the subject doesn't change
the facts about smoking or secondhand smoke and it's dangers.
Your exaggerating my reaction. I don't go ballistic - I GET SICK from
secondhand smoke. Those are 2 separate responses. One is an emotional
response, and the other is a physical response that can't be controlled,
unlike an emotional response CAN be controlled.
On 5/29/2016 12:03 PM, email@example.com wrote:
Tobacco smoke is the main smoke I've been affected by, but other smoke I
have similar reactions, too. VOC's mostly make me sick to my stomach
and I can get headaches from them.
No, wood smoke contains "a complex mixture of gases and fine particles
(also called particle pollution, particulate matter, or PM). These
microscopic particles can get into your eyes and respiratory system,
where they can cause health problems such as burning eyes, runny nose,
and illnesses such as bronchitis. In addition to particle pollution,
wood smoke contains several toxic harmful air pollutants including:
benzene, formaldhyde, acrolein and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs).
There are approximately 600 ingredients in cigarettes. When burned, they
create more than 7,000 chemicals. At least 69 of these chemicals are
known to cause cancer, and many are poisonous.
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