You figure it's a good idea to murder women and children for the "crime" of
looking for work in the USA? I suppose your ancestors were not immigrants.
Perhaps you're actually the Daring Arapaho?
Oh my God, another person who doesn't understand what an "illegal
invader" is. If you knew there were land mines across a piece of
land that was illegal for you to cross, would you set foot on
that land anyway? I think news of the mines would get out pretty
quickly especially with all the warning signs and little bits and
pieces of criminal invaders everywhere. If they want a better life,
why don't they fix Mexico? By the way, my ancestors came to the
United States LEGALLY!
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:16:54 -0500, Robert L Bass wrote:
Yep. I came over in 2007 - process took about a 8 months, lots of
paperwork, lots of fees (it'll end up being about $4000 when I'm all done
I think, and I didn't have lawyer fees on top of that like most do).
The process costs a lot more than a lot of illegals can afford - even
assuming a legal route is open to them, which it won't be in most cases. I
can understand immigration issues on both sides of the fence - but killing
folk whos only crime is wanting a better life elsewhere is really not the
$4,000? I hope that's for more than the green card (which was never green,
BTW). We did our own paperwork for my wife and IIRC, ut came to less than $2K.
That was in 2004-5.
From what some folks in Congress had been speaking about, the recent idea is to
require illegal aliens to pay a fine, go home and then go through a pre-approved
process for legal re-entry. The problem for many illegals is all of that will
be beyond their financial means. We were fortunate in that my wife was here
legally on a 5-year, renewable visa when we met. She and her family had been
coming back and forth for many years as they always had visas. That comes with
the territory for Brazilians who are fortunate enough to have a good job and
their own homes in Brazil. The rest can't even come for a weekend visit. :^(
I have many hispanic and Brazilian friends here in the USA and in South America
(I've been down there 14 times since 2001) and nearly half of them can't gain
legal entry to the USA. I'd love to see a more open door policy but that's
probably a few years off. We'll see.
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:18:33 -0500, Robert L Bass wrote:
I think fees all went up since then - that's also including long trips
back and forth for medicals, embassy appointments, biometrics etc. which
of course do depend on your location as to how expensive they are
(although I think the medical alone was $400).
I'm getting toward the end of my 2 year conditional residency, and I think
it's about $1000 for the paperwork to change that into a full green card.
Then citizenship comes later (I realise that's optional!) and is
doubtless similarly costly...
Yep. It's expensive and slow - but at the same time I can totally
understand a country wanting to lock down its borders. I've just got
issues with use of deadly force to patrol those borders, though...
Aha, OK... my wife's a USC - met her in 2005 on a trip over here and then
went back and forth on the VWP for the next couple of years before kicking
off all the paperwork.
Certainly would be nice just for visitors and maybe an increase of stay
from the 90 days of the VWP.
IIRFC, we didn't have that pahse. Because my wife was already here on a visa
when we married, we just applied for the green card. It took about 18 months
back then though I think it may differ depending on country of origin, current
My cousin's wife (coincidentally, also from Brazil) recently became a citizen.
Her cost was mainly for the lawyer because she fouled up her paperwork at one
point. They got it straightened out and all went smoothly after a bit of
wrangling though. I think the paper work cost was a lot less than the gren card
I don't mind rules about who can and can't come, as long as they are fair and
not based on which foreign government is helping the fortunes of some political
party here. The prior poster is clearly an ill-informed red-neck with little to
nothing in common with real patriots.
Hatred is NOT a family value.
The 90-day thing depends on country of origin and the purpose of the visa.
Funny thing is that when Americans visit Brazil on a tourist visa there's also a
90-day limit. On a couple of occasions I've stayed longer (as much as 5 months
at a time) by applying for an extension. I now have a Brazilian Federal Police
card which I carry for ID while traveling there. That opens a few doors and
allows me to buy property. Their requirements for a work permit are even more
confusing than ours. Since my company is online though, I don't really need
that -- just the freedom to travel.
Have you been abroad since getting the "conditional"? There's an inconvenient
surprise for many folks upon returning. Instead of being routinely processed
through customs, you get side-tracked to a separate office where they question
you more about your trip. It can take anywhere from a few minutes to several
hours before you get out to whoever is waiting for you and there's no way to
make a call (cell phones are prohibited in customs). I'm not sure the reason
for this step but it's a royal PITA if you arrive at a busy time.
This has gone on way too long so I'll let it go for now. Good luck with your
app. Do go for full citizenship if you plan to stay in the US permanently.
It's a great country and you should avail yourself of all the rights we don't
give away to right-wing presidents from Texas. :^)
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:21:41 -0500, Robert L Bass wrote:
Aha, OK. I think it took me about half that time, but I get a green card
for 2 years then i have to do more paperwork to turn it into a full green
card (I've got all the rights of a full GC now, but I think they just
want to hear from people 2 years down the line to make sure they're still
married and aren't playing the system). I must be classed as something
like a "non-permanent permanent resident" right now ;)
I've hated the paperwork so far - there's a lot of stuff in there that's
a bit ambiguous. I can see why most folk hire lawyers to take care of
Well, I got "grilled" in Chicago on my 4th trip over on the VWP, and it
delayed me for about 30 mins - I had to hoof it to make my next flight.
But it wasn't a bad experience (I'd heard some real horror stories) - the
staff were polite and courteous and were happy with the answers I gave
Just frustrating not knowing in advance whether you're going to get
'caught' in that process though (maybe it's better now, but all the online
airline ticket companies at the time didn't give the option for saying how
long you wanted between landing in the US and getting a connecting flight
- if the first flight was running late it could be tight enough as it was)
I've not tried going out of the US and back since I was granted residency
- probably won't now either as I've only got until Feb before I have to
apply to get the 'full' green card.
You said the magic words: "I earned the right". I'm glad
you went through the legal process, that makes you an
honorable man. My maternal ancestors came through Ellis
Island legally and there is a possibility that a few of
them were turned away in accordance with the existing law
at the time. My paternal ancestors came to America with
the second or third wave of colonists who were escaping a
tyrannical English monarchy. I would be interested in how
you know what I sound like. I don't recall posting an audio
I've got a vacation home with an ancient and expensive temperature sensing
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I just bought one. I'm a VB programmer, but have never done any cgi stuff,
manufacturers 'void warantee' blurb scares me. Does anyone know of the
or whereabouts of some sample temperature sensor cgi code? Google didn't
Thanks in advance for any information.
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:34:16 -0400, "Robert Green"
I can confirm that the WebControl devices being shipped by the Amazon
supplier have the same v02.03.03 firmware as what www.cainetworks.com (the
manufacturer) upgrades exist units to. I recently had two boards that I
purchased about a year ago upgraded. CAi Networks did them for free for me
in appreciation of my testing of various 1-wire devices and Honeywell
humidity devices to them, but usually charge $20 + shipping which is more
than 1/2 the price of the board without case through the Amazon supplier.
FWIW, I found that the board works OK with the HIH-3600 humidity sensor as
well as the HIH-4000 series specified. The bug with the 1-wire appears fixed.
Previously, the board would only accommodate Maxim's low-accuracy ( +/- 2C)
DS1822 "Econo" device. It now also works with the "High-Precision" ( LOL ! )
DS18B20 ( +/- 0.5C)
Sophie, of their sales team, gave me this part number:
TYCO ELECTRONICS - 1658622-3 and said it was available from Newark
Electronics. Actually, she just said "Newark" and I assumed the
"Electronics" part but I never followed up because I found that an XT era
game port/joystick adapter cable also fits and I had a few in my junkbox.
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