Last week Walmart unexpectedly closed 5 stores in cities all over the
country. The reason given was that they have plumbing problems.
The latest is that they have a lot of water leaks. Can anybody
think of any reason why 5 stores would develop plumbing
problems all at the same time?
I have thought that possibly they were all built at the same
time and whoever wrote the specs called for some fabulous
new plumbing technology that didn't work out. But at the
same time I don't see why that would mean they needed to
shut down with no warning.
Usually attempts to deal with such problems start with a simple approach and
move to the ever more complex. At some point you have to bite the bullet
after the simpler approaches fail to solve the problem.
Googling Walrmart plumbing gives a Fortune link and a
CBS link within the last 24 hours saying it was retaliation for labor
organizing. That's what I get from the google summary, anyhow. I
havent' read the articles.
Sounds about right. WallyWorld would do anything to prevent a union
from taking hold. What's half a dozen stores amongst eleven
thousand. Besides, there's probably another store within a five mile
Actually it's more like 10 miles, if you don't count the markets.
They are doing moderately well by the employees that lost their jobs.
They get 60 days pay and a separation package if they can't get on
at another Walmart.
That's *if* they are really getting full pay and not some token "sounds good
as a newsbite" amount. Wal-mart is very precise with staffing - they use
sophisticated computer software to try to determine when to tell people to
report for peak customer loads. So I don't see them making a lot of room
for the fired employees at nearby stores. But it sounds "good" and "kind"
and "reasonable." Time will tell if it really is and how many of those
people are actually rehired. We'll also see whether the ones not rehired
are ones involved in the protest group, "OUR Wal-mart."
It's hard to believe Wal-mart's plumbing claims when it's well-known that
the Pico Rivera store was the site of OUR (Organization United for
Respect)Walmart's first strike in 2012.
Remember, a separation package can be nothing more than a hearty handshake
and a sheaf of applications for welfare and Medicaid. But it sounds great
in a sound bite on the evening news.
My personal opinion is that Wal-mart having this whole "plumbing problems"
lasting SIX months (coincidentally) in the stores known to have the most
activists strains credulity. Particularly when you're talking about a
retail business that doesn't use much water to begin with.
>months, during which time they can try to transfer to a different
Careful reading says "they can TRY to transfer." I say good luck with that.
Just like Gov. Walker has "tried" to reduce taxes. (-: You can't buy
Sunday dinner with good intentions. Or spend a 5% property tax reduction
that never materialized.
I used to shop at (and defend) Wal-mart for a long time but when I realized
how much of their costs they had pushed off onto the Feds and local
government (the taxpayers), I stopped.
They are great logisticians and have really made their business processes
quite efficient but now they are pushing too far. Especially when it comes
to their employees having to go on some sort of welfare to make ends meet
because of Wal-mart's staffing and hiring practices. Or, if it turns out to
be true, punishing workers who try to form a union.
My hope is that they are unmasked and that the DOJ files a RICO action in
addition to any NRLB action because they closed stores in several states for
this "plumbing" BS. Sounds like a conspiracy that crossed state lines to
me. Treble damages and maybe even forfeitures might keep Wal-mart from
trying this crap in the future.
Sadly, the NLRB laws are most likely written to preclude RICO prosecution
and worse, involve fines that are insubstantial to a company making $16B in
profits yearly. Maybe if Holder pushed a RICO prosecution, the R's would
finally confirm Lynch as AG to get rid of him and take the heat off
Actually it was a union making the charges to the Feds. The articles (as
well as the union officials) were sorta vague as to whether they all
were places that had were being unionized or just a couple.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
but what they conceal is vital."
Here's an article excerpt from Fortune:
<<Wal-Mart workers are fighting back against the retailer's decision last
week to close five stores in four states for what the company says are
plumbing repairs. Workers at the company's Pico Rivera, Calif. store who are
associated with OUR Wal-Mart, a group that advocates for better pay, say the
closings are "retaliatory" in nature. They filed a charge with the National
Labor Relations Board on Monday, claiming that the termination of more than
500 employees at the Pico Rivera Wal-Mart constituted an unfair labor
Last week, the retail giant, which employs 1.3 million workers in the United
States, temporarily closed five stores-two in Texas and one each in
California, Florida, and Oklahoma-for six months of plumbing repairs. >>
SIX MONTHS? I hope the Feds ream them a new one for these blatantly
retaliatory tactics. We all know they can demolish and build an entire new
store in way less time. Can anyone here postulate what kind of plumbing
repairs would take that long? I'd like to see them prove those claims in
front of the NLRB and if they can't, be fined the maximum for such
skullduggery. And the workers all rehired and granted back pay and
penalties for Wal-mart even trying to pull such a cheap stunt.
This is sadly why governments are necessary. Without their oversight, every
company in America would be likely to follow Wal-mart's example. I would
like to see Wal-mart told they can only hire X percentage of part-timers and
have them work regular schedules (so they can get second jobs) because they
have been scamming the taxpayers and their workers for a long, long time by
paying them so little they virtually HAVE to go on government assistance.
Anyone who believes Wal-mart's cock-and-bull story about "plumbing problems"
has rocks in their head. This is how they deal with the threat of
unionization and perhaps finally having to pay a real living wage to their
employees. I, for one, am sick of subsidizing Wal-mart's labor health care
Ever since the time I read they were handing out Medicaid applications to
new part-timers I knew that they were scummy people. Used to shop there but
haven't in a year. They've discovered how badly they can treat people
(never give them enough hours to gain health care and schedule them so
randomly they can't even get a second job!) and they're making an art form
of it. They only recently raised *some* wages to try to avoid a round of
serious protests and picketing that they KNOW wouldn't be good for business.
This could easily be the tipping point for them, expecting that anyone would
actually buy their "plumbing problems" BS. Once you lose your credibility,
it's very hard to regain it. What chutzpah. But this time they have been
so blatant that they may have really screwed the pooch.
A business SHOULD run a business to save money and increase earnings.
Why else would you go into business? If you read the complete story
however, you will find they are doing more for the employees than
required. If I did not know better I would say you were from the Obama
Both full-time and part-time workers will be put on paid leave for two
months, during which time they can try to transfer to a different
Walmart location. Full-time employees who don't get another Walmart job
by June 19 may be eligible for severance, which part time workers aren't
We probably wouldn't need Obamacare if companies like Wal-mart hadn't
figured out how to create an army of part-timers that aren't entitled to the
benefits US workers had been getting for decades. They just cost-shifted
their healthcare costs onto OUR (the taxpayer's) back. I don't feel I need
to help the Waltons, who control over 1/4 of the country's wealth.
<<Between 2007 and 2010, the collective wealth of the six richest Waltons
rose from $73 billion to $90 billion, while the wealth of the average
American declined from $126,000 to $77,000 (13 million Americans have
negative net worth).>>
How much is enough for these people? The answer seems to be everything.
(Hyperbole alert!) Apparently $16B a year in profits and a $90B net worth
isn't enough. Making money is fine as long as you're not carving it out of
*my* savings in the form of higher taxes.
If there was any one company that caused conditions to be ripe for passage
of the ACA, it was Wal-mart making half their workforce part-time and thus
ineligible for decent health insurance. When people complain about
Obamacare, they should think about why it came into being - people could no
longer get health insurance they could afford because companies like
Wal-mart figured out how to beat those costs and put them on the taxpayer's
On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 12:31:02 PM UTC-4, Ken wrote:
A variety of reasons. This doesn't apply to Walmart, of course, but
the wife of a co-worker is a doctor. She started her own practice to,
you know, help people. I think her 1099 showed about $17,000
from the business last year, so it sure isn't to increase earnings.
According to InfoWars and all kinds of RWNJ sites, it's because the
DoD is in cahoots with Walmart to declare "Marshall Law" in Amurrica
and put us all into FEMA Camps in the next few weeks. That's what Jade
Helm is *really* about, even though the feds are claiming is only a
military exercise. Yeah, right.
Walmart's role in this:
1. They supply materiel to the DoD - according to the nuts, you can
order a nuclear weapon or a BlackHawk helicopter using Walmart's
purchasing system, which is PROOF that they're in cahoots with the
Illuminaughty running the world!
2. All Walmarts in the US are connected by a secret complex of
underground tunnels, which the feds will use to route materiel, the UN
troops that will be taking over, and moving citizens into FEMA camps.
And some of those camps/crematories are - you guessed it - the
Walmarts that have been shut down for "plumbing problems". There have
already been a number of Walmart customers who have mysteriously
died/disappeared. Oh noes! The invasion of Amurrica has already begun!
You know at least some of the RWNJs hanging out here find this
Jade Helm, Walmart And DUMBS - Are The Closed Walmarts Being Activated
As Central Command For Underground Operations?
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