Some people are not very good at taking down a tall tree
Tree falling on house
Jun 04, 2024
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That is why I got the pros with a bucket truck to take down 2 trees near my house.
I have the saws and have tsken down trees but they are where if they fall in the wrong direction they will still not do any damage.
You cut down any trees that if they may fall on your house in a storm. I recall a neighborhood nearby full of tulip poplar trees when a high wind took down two of them, one falling on the house and one on the garage crushing a Cadillac. Must have taken 6 months to be able to live there again.
The easy part is taking down the tree. The hard part is cutting it up and getting rid of it. I'm more than happy to pay to have it done.
I'd already gotten something much smaller to fall within 5 degrees of the direction I wanted, so I was pretty sure I could make my tree fall in the right direction and wrt hitting my house 25 feet away, I was feeling lucky. But my neighbor's house 20 feet away.... I couldn't get past that problem. So I paid someone, who climbed up and did it a piece at a time, dropping them straight down (Maybe even lowering the pieces with a rope, but I forget). I wasn't going to climb up, no sirree.
It depends on the tree for me. I have about 1 1/2 acers of woods to put cut down trees and a wood stove to burn them in. however I had a big pine tree to fall over, broken off about a foot above ground. It was one tht looked like a 50 foot Christmas tree. The trunk was atleast 2 feet in diameter or more. I got the 'pros' to cut it up and they mulched the small stuff for resale and used a tractor with forks to move the large pieces to the woods. I would have had a very hard time moving the trunk and my saw was not really big enough for that job.
There are some jobs that I could do and have done in the past that now I have more money I am glad to pay to have some of the jobs done. Especially plumbing. I have always hated to deal with water problems. Same as with oil changes in the cars.I only change oil once a year as I do not drive that much and it is easy to have it done when the state inspection is due. If I changed it myself it would make a couple of trips, get the oil and dispose of the old oil.
I had one tree taken down and it was very cheap. They guy sold it for firewood. I think he needed beer money.
Here we cut it up and burn it . Usually the hardest part is getting it out of the woods .
I had a 75 year old neighbor a couple of blocks away that had a tree partially fall in his yard and in bringing the rest of it down it fell and killed him. I also met a heroin addict in the hospital whose addiction started after he fell out of a tree working as a tree cutter. Not a dyi job for me either.
Yes, I'm as thriftty or cheap as almost anyone, but I changed the oil myself once, and that was enough. Especially getting rid of the old oil which one or two places didn't want. After that, I sort of solved the problem by default, by changing it only ever 2 or 3 or 4 years. Yes, I know that's bad, and I drove about 12,000 miles a year then, all my cars wore out for other reasons after about 7 years when they're about 14 years old, and I never had engine troubles.
I took it to Jiffy-lube once, and all I wanted was an oil change, but they gave me back a check list where they said my PCV valve was good. My hoses were far too brittle to remove my PCV valve and I'm sure they never checked it. (Is there another way to check it?) I complained to the head office but they never got back to me, so I couldn't go back there.
Another Jiffy-lube didn't take the Covid precautions they themselves said they were taking -- it was cold out and they closed the big doors, which they said they did not, and no one wore masks -- and it was early on when I was especially afraid of Covid -- I alredy have breathing problems -- so that annoyed me. I wrote that place and he apologized but a lot of good an apology does me. Didn't get sick however. I did get semi-syn that's supposed to last a lot longer.
Now I only drive 5000 and I think I haven't changed the oil since I got the car, 7 years ago this coming September. (No, the time above during Covid was within the last 7 years.) I should still be ashamed of myself. 153,000 miles, up from 133,000 when I bought it. Oh, that's only 3000 a year.
You have to be careful who you hire as if they get hurt they may go after you to get paid. They should be licensed and insured.
A few years ago neighbor and I had half dozen trees blown down between our back yards. I hired a tree cutter and he paid half and I told him he could keep the firewood if he wanted so he did and it was cheap and he made out. What he did not realize was the area is downhill and the logs were not split so he had a lot of work to do.
This was same neighbor whose wife went out in a windstorm to right an umbrella and have a tree fall on her and the house. Think it cost $17,000 to fix the roof and maybe hundreds of thousands to repair wife with broken ribs and two broken legs. I saw her xray with steel rods in both legs top and bottom.
The property management company found us someone to cut down another tree that was in the woods the HOA owns, but leaning dramatically and aimed at the house of one of my neighbors. Somewhere I got another name and he charged half as much, and did a professional job. Did things safely, in the right order, and cleaned up afterwards. Right after that, he came to my house and did my tree. Very happy with him.
But when I was on one of 2-month trips, around May 20, i got an email that my grass had grown much more than I expected -- they claimed it was as high as my fence, 42 inches! I don't think I believe that, if only because it falls over long before that. -- and it had to be cut. I called him from Europe to ask how much. He said he'd have to look at it. Fair enough. He lives only 4 blocks from me, so it's easy enough to go look, but he never called back, even though I had a USA phone number and it would have been free to call. I called again and he still didn't call back.
OTOH, separately, the HOA decided they have to act preemptively and trim all the other trees that might hurt one of our houses. There are about
40 townhouses that border the woods. I'm at the corner and have tress behind and beside my lot. (Partly luck, but I have the best lot in the whole n'hood, a big reason i've never moved.) I emailed the president of the HOA and the management company telling them NOT to do the trees along side my lot. Because none were big enough to be a danger, and I liked that some branches overhang my yard. But when I wasn't looking, they did it anyhow. It will take 5 or 10 years before the branches get back to the way they were, and I haven't got that long. Even though I still have the trees themselves, it still annoys me a lot when I let myself think about it.
If my condo had a HOA like that for any length of time, I'd move regardless of how I felt about my specific unit. Our HOA is the opposite of yours. Very receptive and responsive to the owners. Board meetings are pleasant social events. In the 7 years we've been here, never observed or heard any anger or animosity by anyone towards anyone else. Everyone is collegial. (And I've missed very few meetings.) We've been told by many residents who moved here from other condos that both our Board and our management company are exceptional and work together as a team to meet the owner's expectations. Extremely strong positive vibes all around.
I hope I didnt' give the wrong impression. I like the president of the HOA. She's very nice and does a good job, and she even voluteered to take me home from a medical procedure that required anesthesia, and maybe she took me there too. She either forgot, or she told the management company which either forgot or one hand doesn't know what the other hand is doing. Plus they made other mistakes and we changed companies. (The new one also doesn't seem to understand what an easement is, and who owns the easement bhind everyone's house, and beside the end-of-group houses, but other than that, they've been okay so far.)
I've been here 41 years, so I have a lot more to draw from, to cherrypick the things I can complain about. The n'hood was 4 years old when I got here. They had parties in people's back yard to which I weas invited as a neighbor. But gradually the first group of owners moved away, as they had children and wanted more space, or as they had saved up more money and wanted more space, not just a townhouse. Still the monthly meetings were at people's homes and they all served some kind of food. One who liked to bake baked specially for the meetings. (Unfortunately she died of pancreatic cancer when she was only 50 or
60.)Then a new president arose over the HOA who knew not honor. She was the VP when the president and her family moved to a bigger house.
She badmouthed many people, made up stories about them and about the swimming pool management and she did this for years, including directly to me. . At the next board election, she gave improper directions so that the ballots were counted wrong, then after only 3 days she destroyed the ballots to prevent a recount. She's our version of trump. I'm not kidding. It took me weeks to figure out how to phrase the lawsuit but I sued the HOA and forced a new election.
(She also got a homestead exemption on her house, and again when she bought in her name a house for her grown son. The papers are all online for anyone to see. Illegal to get two of them but I didnt' tell anyone.)
No one wanted the meetings at their home anymore so we started using a n'hood rec center, with a gympnamsium, an auditorium, a computer room, and 2 smaller meeting rooms.
That's definitely true for us too, except one time when she was no longer an officer and as she passed behind me in the meeting room, she rubbed my shoulders. I said clearly so everyone in the small room could hear, Don't rub my shoulders. -- It made it seem like we were friends, like I'd forgiven her, when instead I'd learned more rotten things about her.
Finally karma came I guess and she has alzheimers and cannot live alone. Since Covid we've had our meetings by zoom, and I suppose we could go back to in person meetings, but I think anyone is pushing for that. I attended a board meeting 3 years ago from Europe at 2AM in my rental car, and this past January, from my bed in my small room in a Guatemalan hotel. It's weird.
I'm sure your place is exceptional, and you're making me jealous. And I know HOA, co-op, and condo boards are famous for fighting. Ours is probably in the middle. We really don't fight. Our biggest problem is that the documents make it hard to raise the dues and we've only been able to do so somewhat, and prices have gone up in 45 years and we don't have enough money. it never occurred to me to read and evaluate the documents before I bougght this place. In fact I didn't even know there was an HOA or dccuments until the closing. But in 41 years, I've never come across another place anywhere near my price range that I would like better or even as much, because of the woods and the stream, so I would have moved here anyhow. (Many places, the streams are surrounded by park, and the closest you can live is across the street.) I grew up playing in the woods every day, and I like woods.
I would actually like to give them some money, and not wait until I die to do so, but if I do, they'll look at me different and be asking me for money all the time.
I went to a quick change place one time. After they changed the oil, I looked underneath to discover they had not replaced the plastic protector that had to be removed to get to the drain plug. They had to go find that cover and screw it back in place, and they whined that they should have charged me extra for removing it. I only did it because I had just had neck fusion surgery, and was still wearing a cervical collar. That's the only time I ever paid for an oil change.
20,000 mile on no change? That's nuts.I change once a year these days, maybe 6000 miles, mostly for winter snowboarding. I change it in the fall.
The first thing I did when we were shown the condo by our real estate agent was ask to see all the financial documents. Our condo is almost
35 years old. There's never been a special assessment. Reserves are sufficient to cover all planned capital expenditures for the next 6 years even if no new revenue was added and there's a good buffer to fund unexpected expenses. Yes the monthly dues are high to obtain and maintain such a high reserve but we never have to worry about unexpected assessments.
You are forgiven.
Related, I needed a new muffler once and took it to the gas station in easy walking distance from home. He called me at work with th e price and listed the parts he would replace, but did not list the parts he would not replace and I did not notice. When I got there at the end of the day, that's when I somehow learned he had not replaced the resonator. He said, you don't need it. Sure, that's why the maker put it in there. I complained and he said he'd look in their trash bin, but he said it wasn't there. Who knows? I'm sure he didn't want to do more work for no money.
I also went there for a wheel alignment, and he didn't know how to attach the devices to my standard but new-fangled mag? wheels. He had to call someone who told him to put wheel weights on the rims temporarily.
And there was a 3rd thing he did wrong that I forget. Three times and you're out. Eventually they tore down the repair bays and office and built a convenience store instead.
For a few years I had to walk home a mile or two from one of two places. EAch had a bus line, but I walked on the rare occcasions the car needed work. Now there are two service stations across the street from where the first one was, and the one I picked seems pretty good.
This is for things I don't do myself.
I woud never have gone back after the first tme when he left out the resonator.
I know of the resonators but what do they do that the muffler that comes after it does not do ?
Glad to hear you don't think I was picky. He tried to make it sound like if I were a real man, I wouldn't need a resonator.
Maybe I gave him some slack because he had on the phone listed what he would replace. OTOH, I'm by far not the only one who wouldn't notice that he left resonator out from his list.
If he hadn't damaged it, he could have re-used the original one. Even if he had damaged the connecting part a little bit, he could have patched that. But re-doing it would have required I think 2 short new pipes.
Also, he was only 3 long blocks from my home. With no wife to pick me up, walking there was important. Although there was one serice station across the street from him. it might have looked raggedy then.
Automobiles The exhaust pipes in automobile exhaust systems are designed as acoustic resonators that work with the muffler to reduce noise, by making sound waves "cancel each other out".[7] The "exhaust note" is an important feature for some vehicle owners, so both the original manufacturers and the after-market suppliers use the resonator to enhance the sound. In "tuned exhaust" systems designed for performance, the resonance of the exhaust pipes can also be used to remove combustion products from the combustion chamber at a particular engine speed or range of speeds.[8]
It's suppposed to sound nicer, more pleasant, lower (?), and iirc lower the negative effect on power from the muffler (the reference above to "performance"). As I understand it, cheaper cars don't have one, so I;d paid for it and I wanted one. I admit that I didn't notice its absence after it was gone, but that doesn't mean the car wasn't louder and more annoying even if I didnt' notice. And in a convertible with the top down you hear the engine and exhaust noises a lot more clearly than closed cars.
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