Toyota map DVD can't be read.

Jul 14, 2023 Last reply: 2 years ago 32 Replies

DVD can't be read, what to do?



Toyota Solara with Navigation, which means map DVD. Two or 3 years ago, occasionally I'd get an error message when car first started so radio first tries to read the map. I would either stop and start the car, or later I realized I could eject the DVD and reinsert it and it always worked the 2nd time. (There is a separate CD drive for playing music.)



Bought a DVD cleaning DVD, which is a disk with a brush! Used 2 or 3 times. Didn't help.



Changed from the 2005 edition of the map, that came with the car when new, to the 2008 edition, the last year they made one. Didn't help.



Both map DVDs look pristine. No fingerprints, not even old ones that have been wiped away.



In the last month, problem's gotten more frequent, but still worked the



2nd time every time. Yesterday, didn't work until the 3rd time. And today, right after I bought tires for a car trip tomorrow, wouldn't work right at all.

I restarted the map, and the map restarted itself 2 or 3 times** for each time I restarted, and never completely displayed the map, and always insufficent for moving my location while I drive***.



A couple strange things, never happened before today: 1) Start of the day, changing stations, which is usually instantaneous, took 5 or 10 seconds every time. Changing volume, for which there is a knob (although it's not a direct rheostat control) also took 5 or 10 seconds. Changing from FM band 1 to 2 (6 memories each) also took 5 or 10 seconds. Saving presets took 5 or 10 seconds. This delay phenomenon never happened before and I don't see how it's related to not reading the map DVD, but otoh, it's not a coincidence, is it? (Once the radio was on a station, the radio worked fine.) 2) Sometimes**** much of the map showed, but a quadrilateral to the left of center, using about 1/5th of the screen, was dark and blank. But driving didn't move the map. ****Or maybe all the time. Sun was very bright.



How do I fix this?



Is there a better way to clean the head? A more expensive DVD head cleaning CD? Maybe the one I bought didn't know how to work because it was not a general purpose DVD or CD slot, but a dedicated map DVD??? So the radio software was incompatible with, or didn't try to execute, the cleaning DVD software. Maybe NO cleaning CD knows how to work with a Map DVD slot? Or should I disassemble the radio and clean the head directly? (Previous car had a 5-CD changer that broke. Major effort just to get the CDs out, had to destroy the changer mechanism. Never did see the head.)



Should I try cleaning the head again, even if it didn't seem to help the first few times, because clearly now it's worse, so maybe even a partial cleaning will be enough?



Should I use a liquid or solvent on the brush. I think it didn't say to and I didn't last time.



There are junkyard radios, but would they be fully tested? How can they fully test a map that is meant to move when the junkyard car has no engine or tires? And no GPS antennna. I presume the radio is tested, but seriously, do they, can they test the map?


***I've only used navigation twice in 5 years, once in the dark in Charlston, S. Carolina, but I use location all the time.


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*Convertible, top down, lots of sun, so hard to see the screen, but I could see between attempts, in the center of the screen was a little clock symbol, and the time on the clock was different each time!!! Curious if there's a pattern, but had to pay attention to the road.


BTW, I just bought two new used tires today, so that I could go on a



4-day car trip tomorrow, and as I was leaving the tire place, or maybe first thing this morning, that's when the map broke! I love my map, especially when wandering around places I've never been before, which was the exact plan for the next 4 days. What irony!

(I've liked maps since I was a little boy, loved them for the last 50 years)


If you want navigation, buy a Garmin. Cheaper than any service call for repairing the DVD unit.

Yeah, I've got one that I bought many years ago for $89 at Sam's Club. It has lifetime free quarterly downloadable updates from Garmin for maps, points of interest and operating software.

OTOH, the Nav in my Toyota Avalon Limited runs off a mini SD card and there hasn't had been an update available for years. The dealer wanted $170 to install the one released about two years after I bought the car. But slick talker that I am, I convinced them that the sales deal included one free update.

In-car Nav, like SiriusXM satellite radio, is on the down-slope because so many folks now buy unlimited cellular data plans and they just stream directions and music from their phone through the car's 17-speaker audio system.

Google maps and others can download the latest "offline" maps so you don't need to use any data on the road, and still have functionality when no signal is available.

I get free updates twice a year from Genesis and Hyundai. They were on and SD card but new model load from a USB and now OTA.

I've had SiriusXM for the past 12 years. I listen to it in the car and at home. They always have a deal at renewal time if you call.

Thought of ditching it one day. Went to the store and put on a favorite FM station. It was commercials all the way. Did some shopping, then turned it on for the way home. Commercials all the way. Got home and paid the Sirius bill.

I just used free trials until they offered me 2 years at $5/month. I'm hoping they'll have a similar offer when this term ends next year.

Toyota car radio/map.

I appreciate all the suggestions to my open-ended question. Buying a new GPS unit is a last resort**. Mostly I'm trying to fix the one I have in the dashboard.

One poster on the web thinks that having a map DVD in one's car for years damages the DVD. Do you think that's true? I park outside and it goes from 10F in the winter to 97 in the summer, but usually under

  1. The car is white and the top is tan, but it does get several degrees hotter in the car than outside. I think I bougbt the DVD new 4 yars ago, even though it was made in 2008.

Maybe I could have made a copy when I got it but it's too late for that now. :-(

**For one thing, all the Amazon pictures either show the right half of the screen devoted to text etc, and only the left half devoted to map, OR they don't show as much detail as google maps or my current toyota map does.

A mechanical system in a car for reading data (or music) in the XXI century is an amazing idea. It is bound to fail sooner or later.

One of my gripes with their ads is the fine print line that says "taxes and fees additional."

My $4.99 a month plan had $2.28 added for T&F. That's 46% more than the advertised "price."

A little Truth in Advertising please guys!

My $4.99 plan bills at $6.28. Not as bad as yours but still a big chunk.

Why is it too late? Is the DVD stuck inside the unit somehow? If not, remove it, take it to your computer and attempt to create an image from it. Keep an eye on the read speed during the operation, but more importantly, check the log at the end. If the disc was unreadable, the image creation will fail and you'll have your answer, but if the read speed drops dramatically at one or more places or the log file shows repeated attempts to read certain sections, then you know the disc is on its last legs. If the image creation completes successfully and the read speed stays relatively constant, the disc is fine and the problem is with the Nav unit.

One option I haven't seen mentioned is to replace the in-dash unit with an aftermarket unit. They've long ago moved away from DVD-based maps so the new units are much more reliable. You'd also get USB input, Bluetooth, SiriusXM, and more. Crutchfield.com is a decent place to explore and compare units that are guaranteed to fit and be direct replacements.

I don't think I can see a scenario where I would buy used tires. I guess it would have to be some kind of emergency and that was all that's available, but that seems unlikely.

I was thinking that, if the current problem is that age or heat had damaged the DVD already. But last night I went out and tried it somemore and the GPS works, it just keeps flashing that message ever 3 or 4 minutes, but in between it does keep track of where I am and what direction I'm going. In fact that clock I post about that changed time was actually the arrow showing which direction the car was pointed.

So I will copy the DVD.

I ordered a DVD cleaning disk. They don't sell them at Target, and they don't have any in the store at Walmart, and even Bestbuy's closest in-store one is in Annapolis, 40 miles away. That's the reason I've been dubious about how well they work. But Amazon sell8 or 10 different models all with quite a few 4 and 5 ratings. So we will see.

It's also possible that becausea this is the Map DVD, with dedicated software, that last time I did this, it didn't spin nearly as much as it would have. So even if I have to turn the car on and off over and over, I'll spin it for 5 or 10 minutes instead of 30 seconds it might have been if it didn't work right last time.

Good to know.

There were 3 videos about broken Nav units, 2 of them about toyotas, but one was about feeding the disk and and out. In another he cleaned the head with a Q-tip and compressed air. (There was a rubber faceplate that pulled off starting at one side, and the opening was much bigger after that, but I don't thimk my slot is big enough to get a q-tip in there. I only found one hit out of many that referred, vaguely, to Map DVDs.

One guy asked someone if he drove with the windows open, more dirt gets in. Heck I drive with the windows open 9 month a year and with the top down 7 months a year. If his question had any basis, I'm lucky it works at all.

I looked at Crutchfield but didn't look for direct replacments.

What I did find somewhere was a GPS with FM radio but no AM. How much more would it cost to include AM circuity? Can't they use the antennal that came with the car? There's not much AM radio here at all but still, I don't want to abandone it.

When I was in college, my 85 year old cousin gave me his car. My uncle said he'd get two tires for me. I didnt' know much, and all I knew was to say to him "Nn recaps". On the way to school only 20 miles along, the recap started flappoing off the tire. But since then I've bought a lot of used tires and never had a problem. Never a recap (do they still have recaps for passenger car tires?), they sell probably from cars that were wrecked. I bought two on Friday, price for my size had gone from

40 and 50 seven years ago to 65 and 75 this year. That might not be so cheap anymore??, but in and out in 12 minutes. That alone keeps me coming back but I doubt many used tire stores anywhere can match it for speed.

This is one of Biden pet peeves.

I still have a landline through Century. The bill I got today said "Your Federal Universal Service Fund Surcharge rate has changed from 29.00% to

29.20%. I don't know how much more Bidenomics I can stand/

I have an old Garmin that still works fine and gets lifetime map updates. Years ago a son had a BMW and when nav system went down it was repaired under warranty and if not for warranty would have cost a couple of thousand dollars to repair.

I understand GPS sales took a big dip with most people now just using their cell phones.

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Don't.

Just try to read, or better image, the thing on a computer.

Long before Biden

Do I have to pay the federal universal service fee? The FCC does not require this charge to be passed on, but service providers are allowed to do so. These charges usually appear as a percentage of the consumer's phone bill. Companies cannot collect an amount that exceeds the percentage of their contribution to the USF.

This contribution is known as the Universal Service Fund Fee. It is calculated as a percentage of a company's end-user telecommunications revenues. The rate varies but typically ranges from 15.5% to 33%. FUSF surcharges may be passed through to the final user of the telecommunications services.

Do you think the cleaning disk can make the situation worse?

Do you think the problem is in the DVD disk and not the laser sensor?

The .20% increase wasn't long before Biden although that pales compared to the rest of the inflation. Note: a lower than expected increase in the CPI does not equate to a lower CPI despite the media trying to wrestle lipstick on a pig.

But Trump... Yeah, he fell for the covid boondoogle hook, line, and sinker but Slow Joe is trying to claim credit for fixing the problem.

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