It gets confusing looking at all the makes and models.
Looking in the $250 range for a basic white, elongated toilet.
Looking at reviews, it appears people with bad experiences are more apt
to blast the manufacturers.
I think most are fine. That didn't used to be true.
Older ones really didn't work very well with 1.6 gallon
flush. The best seems to be Toto. They're very
innovative, designing to optimize for 1.6 gallon
flush and smaller bowls. One example: With smaller
bowls it's hard for men to avoid splashing. Older
toilets had bigger bowls with bigger overhangs inside,
so there was no issue. But newer models have small,
low bowls. Toto designs their bowls deeper to solve
| It gets confusing looking at all the makes and models.
| Looking in the $250 range for a basic white, elongated toilet.
| Looking at reviews, it appears people with bad experiences are more apt
| to blast the manufacturers.
| Suggestions welcome.
Don't buy a European one with little water in the bottom. Need cleaning
every time they are used. There's an earlier thread with a post by me
and the word toilet and one or more replies about European toilets.
At home, I have two Kohler comfort height elongated bowl. The reason
I bought them was the good experience with the same ones at work.
Flush flawlessly. I think it is Wellworth model.
American Standard and Toto have reliable models also.
Consider getting the Kohler eats too. The Q3 series are slow close,
easy to install or remove if you want to do a good cleaning on
A rather lengthy thread here a while back led us to purchase
the Kohler Cimmaron. After a year <or more> use now, it
has functioned perfectly. No regrets. We did spend a few extra
bucks to get the 1.6 gal. version, tho others here at the time were
likewise happy with their 1.28.
Don't get me started on the topic of Gerber toilets.
For at least 5 years now, all that I would buy were the standard, white,
round or elongated, Gerber toilets that were sold by my local plumbing
supply places -- the same ones that almost all of the local plumbers would
buy when replacing toilets for homeowners, investors, etc. They worked
great and flushed and re-filled fast and well. They cost about $115 or
$120. I have several rental properties plus some properties that I help
maintain for the place where I work, so switching out old toilets was a
fairly routine and common task.
The problem is that Gerber recently got the bright idea (maybe 9 or 10
months ago) to change the design of their toilets. They thought that the
new federal law or standard was going to require 1.28 gallon flush toilets
instead of 1.6 gallon. The new design that they created caused nothing but
problems, and plumbing supply houses no longer had or could get the same
standard Gerber toilets that they used to have to sell to their customers
Now, Gerber has some nonsense model, which I think is called Gerber
Avalanche, and which is supposed to be compatible with 1.28 gallon or 1.6
gallon flush toilet standards -- depending on which size tank it came with.
Unfortunately, it has a different size (much larger) flapper in it, which is
not the standard size flappers that are otherwise sold and available
everywhere. So, to change the flapper, you have to order or buy a special
part or special size flapper for the new Gerber toilets.
I am now looking for another standard model toilet to buy in the future for
toilet replacements instead of my old standby -- Gerber.
I strongly suggest you avoid all the annecdotal stories and go here to look at
real testing results. Then select a toilet that is rated 1000.
Note that the historical performance of a brand is of limited use as
manufacturers can and do changet he mold size. Also note that MaP is not a
protected term. Some manufacturers place their own MaP ratings on a box with no
performance testing to back up the number.
I have a new comfort height Toto and it flushes fine, but the low water mea
ns that doing #2 can require frequent cleaning, not every time, but often.
I like the slow drop toilet seat. The thing that would make this really coo
l, not sure if it is even available, would be some sort of electric button
flush instead of the handle.
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