It looks like Samsung cant fix the problem of these phone batteries
starting on fire. They even evacuated a commercial plane because of one
of them (instead of just tossing the phone out a door or window.. kinda
So how do you get rid of them? You cant just toss them in the garbage
because the garbage could start on fire. I wonder if smashing the phone
with a sledge hammer would do the trick. Or what about tossing them in a
container of sulfuric acid?
I suppose we will soon find these phones laying in rural road ditches,
and in city sewers because people are afraid of them, and dont know how
to get rid of them.
I think the real solution is for Samsung to go to the residence of each
and every phone owner, to reimburse the customer and take these
"firebombs" back to their factory, where they can burn down their
business for not properly testing their products. It would serve them
right if they burned and went bankrupt.
I'm glad I dont own one....
And will never buy a Samsung product.....
On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 01:14:37 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
If I had one of them, I guess that would be a good solution. Or better
yet, bury the battery in someone's yard, or best of all, find a highway
where they are going to pour concrete, and put it under the gravel, so
it's permanently sealed in concrete....
Actually, it might not be the phones at all, but the cause is all the
hot air from using the phone for facebook, or reading all the latest
political scandals. :)
On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 01:15:31 -0400, email@example.com wrote:
Maybe the smartphones are just bad news all the way around.
I'll stick with my old $20 flip phone. The only thing wrong with the
batteries in them, is that they only last about 1 - 1/2 years. I'm on my
3rd battery on this 4 year old phone, and it's needing to be charged
twice daily now. I think I'll spend the $20 to get a newer flip phone
this time around.
On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 02:21:35 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
A flip phone without the screen, wi-fi, bluetooth, camera, etc. could
probably last a few days on a pair of Ni-H AAAs. Then, if they require
recharging and you want to call 911 while you're out in the bush because
you've shot yourself in the foot, you can just take the alcalines out of
your 'scope laser.
I know that lithium polymer batteries have a higher charge density, but
there's nothing that beats the convenience of getting fresh batteries in
(dare I say it) a convenience store.
I have never seen a flip phone that runs on AAA batteries. They all have
a dedicated flat battery, which can be costly. A place called "Batteries
Plus", quoted me just under $50. I told the guy I only paid $20 for the
phone (with battery/charger). I was gonna just buy another phone, but
then I found the batteries on Ebay for about $6 (shipped). I have since
bought them twice, and they all lasted as long as the original one. (1.5
years). But the phone itself is badly worn, so I think I'm gonna get a
new one this time.
I wish I could just use common AAA batteries....
Thats just like I was looking at a digital camera in the store. Nice
camera, but as soon as I found out it needed a special dedicated battery
pack (which costs $60), I put the camera back on the shelf and left the
store. Most of my photos are taken outdoors, in places where there are
no outlets to plug in a charger. I'll just stick with my old camera that
uses common AA alkaline or rechargable batteries. (I always carry
spares, and almost every gas station and store sells them.
On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 13:29:48 -0400, email@example.com wrote:
My LG Tracfone, gets 2 to 3 days on a charge with new batteries. I dont
make a lot of calls either. But now that the battery is dying, I am
lucky to get a full day on a charge (If I leave the phone on). Half a
day if I make several calls. I try to shut it off when I am not using
it, but often forget. I dont carry it with me, it beeps to damn much
everytime I bend over or walk. I just keep it by the house door, in my
car, or near where I am working (outdoors). Unlike today's youth, I dont
need to know someone called me IMMEDIATELY. I can call back when I have
On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 1:30:21 PM UTC-4, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I don't understand his short battery life either. Most phones I've
had the battery lasted the life of the phone, ~4 to 5 years. I think
I bought a new battery once on Ebay. Current smartphone is about
3 years old and the battery still lasts as long as when new.
On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 12:01:34 -0400, email@example.com wrote:
I won't buy a camera that uses AA batteries. They are WAY too
expensive. I just replaced the battery on my good digital camera - $22
for 2 batteries plus a charger. On my wife's point and shoot I got 2
batteries for $9. On my last aa powered camera rechargeable nimh or
nicads were useless a day after taking off the charger and were only
good for a max 50 shots if I worked fast. Lithium AAs were good for
about 400 shots without flash, with a shelf life of over a year.
Alkalines were good for mabee 100 shots Current camera with the
special lithium polymer battery pack is good for closer to 800 shots
and recharges in an hour.. I'd NEVER go back.
I can't immagine a cell phone running on AAs It would be twice as
bulky as my smart phone and I'd have a big box of dead or half-dead
batteries flying around. Putting in fresh batteries every day or so
just to be sure it doesn't die is a PAIN. I just plug mine in every
night. I carry a charger in the car but in over 5 years it has NEVER
gone dead on me - even when I was away from home and didn't charge it
for 3 days.. There are AA powered rechargers that you can carry with
you for emergency recharges.
On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:53:40 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
If you are using a smartphone all the time (display on, accessing the
network for data continually, using bluetooth or WiFi), an overnight
charge is almost completely used during a 16 hour workday of the
I submit that two AAA (not AA) Ni-hydride batteries would easily provide
16 hrs standby plus a reasonable hour or so of talk time if it had no
display / WiFi / Bluetooth. Some people really don't use those
functions. Two AAAs would not be much more bulky than current
Li-polymers. So instead of carrying a charger that uses AAs, just carry
a few AAA lithiums for true (911) emergencies.
That is theory.
Here is fact. The battery on my smartphone is 1/2 the thickness of the
diameter of a AAA battery and 3 diameters wide - it is 8 watt hours
of power or 2100mah. at 3.8 volts. AAA nimh batteries peak out at
about 1000mah - half the capacity of the little lithium in my
My smartphone is on wifi virtually all day - it got a lot of use today
and WILL require a full charge. It would have pretty well exhaused 2
sets of AAA high quality nimh batteries. It would have killed at least
3 sets of enerloops. 2 sets of good standard alkalines would be
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