Theft deterrent for garden shed

I wonder if it applies to stray dogs. If yes, I wish we had that here. :-)

Meanwhile: In Sag Harbor, Long Island, it's illegal to walk your pig within the village's business section on Sundays. Heavily enforced, I'm sure.

On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:05:20 GMT, "Doug Kanter" scribbled this interesting note:

So far as I know, so long as you are in an area where it is legal to discharge a firearm (perhaps out in the country) and you've told your neighbor to keep his dogs off your property, then yes, it is legal. So far as I know.

-- John Willis snipped-for-privacy@airmail.net (Remove the Primes before e-mailing me)

Here, it's sort of that way. Sort of. It depends on whether the dead dog is actually found. In my neighborhood, things are too close together to use a firearm, so we call animal control until they can't stand the nagging any more. They come over, do nothing, and then we call them some more. Finally, we go to a judge, who reminds the animal control idiot that the law requires him to remove the dog from the owner after 3 complaints.

only slightly, otherwise kind of true.

I am liking that place more now.

"Thomas Daniel Horne" wrote

HOORAY for people with common sense!

If you go rustling around other people's property after dark, you deserve what you get.

Too bad this new liberal philosophy and Political Correctness atmosphere do not agree. But who really gives a f*ck? Not me. Instant justice would get rid of a lot of the human garbage on our streets, and lessen the problems of society and the infrastructure in dealing with these walking breathing feces.

In the old days of the wild west, many a badass was shot dead in the dark of night by "person or persons unknown" and there was not a lot made of the incident. One less idiot to deal with for the local police.

Too bad there is not more of that today.

Steve

It still happens, but mostly by skilled artisans, many of whom live near the Hudson River. :-)

Spanking is the first, second and third choice of idiots.

"Doug Kanter" wrote

Idiots spank. Fools don't. At least idiots care what their kids are doing.

Steve

If the kids need spanking, it's because someone was too lazy or stupid to reason with them. It's really not that difficult.

I remember that one. The homeowner was an Asian immigrant who was not familiar with the rite of kids dressing up for Halloween. The kid was an adult sized teenager, probably masked, in strange clothing and asking for trick and treat in a language this immigrant was not fluent in. It was nighttime and in a poor neighborhood. Lots of bad karma there.

No, you have it backward. The kid who was shot was the foreign student. Homeowner was American. See the news articles referenced above.

Harry K

Yup. I was too hasty and had not read the references yet. The reference source also makes more sense. Its almost unheard of for an Asian homeowner to keep a gun for home defence. There are Asian gun collectors for sure but they tend to be Chuppie types - educated, affluent and not inclined to shoot intruders.

I will say, I do agree more with a proper legal and justice system to handle matters and not be too much like the days of the past taking matters into our own hands.

That did and today would still allow to quick a judgment on others, many time did and would hand innocent people without a fair trial.

However, today we do not have a proper non corrupted and decent legal and justice system, still too many people are being convicted due to sloppy detective work, no real evidence, over serious district attorneys trying to make a good record so they can go into private practice, etc, etc, etc...

Also there are the times, when I believe that even with a proper legal system, they can not always be everywhere at anytime protecting others and I really do not want to have to rely on being baby sitted anyway with a over controlling government which is what we are getting today.

People should have the basic right to defend their property to a degree but ultimately defend their lives by any means necessary, only what is necessary.

Trespass, that is one thing, break into my home, I can not wait until I ask if they intend to do personal harm, By that time I could already be shot. No, I am going to make the first move before that can happen !

I will say that spanking is the last resort by any means, but sometimes may be necessary and if so must be done not in agretion, by anger, but in a controlled way. There are ways to do without doing harm but hurting their feelings.

When I was young, there were times that if I had not been spanked (the reasoning failed) I would have not thought about more carefully the next time oppertunity arose to do something that I should not have. I would have been in jail most likely instead I lived a very straight and productive life so far and have developed a more deeper appretiation of what my parents did and how much they cared. I never was physically harmed, no bruises, but several but stings. Love my parents today more than anything! Even then, I may have said I did not like the way they made me have to do things etc, but even then I appreciated in a way that they cared enough to make be behave, Gave me a lot of respect for them and still do.

I see many more parents today, turn the other way not to notice what their kids are doing, as long as the police are not coming to their door, all is OK. They reason and when that fails they just go on frustrated and the whole family will suffer. It is really a miracle some kids do get it and do try to do what is best. I can not really blame the parents directly, any problems and they are afraid that the government will step in and take the kids away, put them in jail, ruin their lives. I believe parents do care and love their kids very much no matter how bad things are, but many just do not know what to do when the kids today are taught that they can have anyone arrested if they do not get their way by just making up some sort of abuse story to get even (kids do not think of consequences, they just act on their anger and the time). This is terrible since it is over shadowing the real abuses that happen.

We have a problem in this country were traditional and cultural values are being broken down, then society wanting the government to solve all our problems for us. by treating over powered government entities without anyone else overseeing their operation many times is to blame with disrupting the family at their will do to any, even many times false, allegations of abuse and many times today, abuse from within that system of government itself.

OK, jumping off the soap box now......

with so many 2 parents working, and kids in daycare, the children arent getting taught values, they are just kept from hurting themselves.

this disengration of the american family produces all sorts of trouble, made worse by tv being a babysitter. tv showing murders, rapes etc constantly.

sadly kids today dont know its bad.........

Tell your ugly mother to stand out there. She'll scare anything away.

I hope you understand that the police are under no obligation to protect you. Their only mandate is to clean up the mess after and try to find the culprit. ...lot good that does you.

If someone unknown comes in my house it won't take much time to judge. They've waived all rights to anything close to fair (whatever "fair" means).

Bullshit. There are far too many let loose. only to rape and pillage again.

You really don't get it. The police have *no* responsibility to protect you. They might, you're lucky.

When somene enters your house illegally, their rights have just been stamped *void*. I wouldn't shoot someone in the back yard, but with a foot in the kitchen window?!

Exactly. Your safety has nothing to do with the police. It is *your* responsibility.

The above said, I do have guns in the house, though none are usually loaded (they're really target pistols). We live in a very safe area where a large percentage of the people are armed. Recently there was a big uptick in home invasions (a few druggies), though the perps were caught. I was about a day shy of feeding Mr. Smith and making him a comfortable bed in the nightstand.

Shoot someone taking a ruddabega from the garden, no.