Theft deterrent for garden shed

Jan 30, 2006 98 Replies

There was a kid a few years ago who got lost looking for a Halloween party. He rang a doorbell to ask for directions, and got shot. The people who killed him didn't even get arrested, if I remember correctly.

That sounds rather weird. Something's missing.

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I'm sure Texas handles such things different than most other states. My understanding is that here in WA, someone just being in your house does not make a shooting justifiable.

Bob

On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:17:47 -0800, "Bob" scribbled this interesting note:

justifiable.

To me that is just plain wrong. If someone I don't know is in my house uninvited at night (or any other time of day) then anything goes. Either some fast talking needs to happen that makes instant sense, or who knows what may happen. I'll not take chances with my family or my home.

-- John Willis snipped-for-privacy@airmail.net (Remove the Primes before e-mailing me)

I have seen something similar on a fence. It was "Our dogs can reach the fence in 3 seconds. Can you?".

Cheap. Don't last long.

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I'd avoid wireless (RF) whenever possible. This adds extra complexity, with the associated loss of reliability. You don't need RF if you can put the motion-sensor on the side of your house, or the shed is on the same wiring.

And create a lot of extra work (and at least some expense). You still need locks, but don't forget the other side.

How about some of those "Protected by (some major security company)" labels?

understanding

justifiable.

It depends on how fast you can talk to the cops afterwards. If you can't convince them that you had "reasonable person" cause to think you or your family were in deadly danger it's the gray bar hotel. Same as someone breaks in threatening you, shoot on the way in but not as he is leaving.

Harry K

Not exactly a kid and there was more to it than that. I think your recollector is rather faulty.

understanding

justifiable.

Yeah he has to be alive and moving, and the person should not be your wife, your girl friend, your kids, and definitely not your mother-in-law. Forget all that if the person is from California, shoot till your ears ring.

Do you have a fenced yard? If so, how about a German Shephard? Rottweiler? Pit Bull?

I'm half joking, half serious. Good friends of mine live in an area that is prone to yard thefts. They have a chain link fence and a German Shephard. They've not been burgled yet.

Loren

I took down one of those tubular steel instant tent carport thinguses. It was a nice one, and cost me about $100. I put up a better sunshade. Anyway, I had all these galvanized poles, about two inches in diameter and five to eight feet long.

I stacked them on a shelf I had on the block wall. I rigged a couple of uprights to hold them in. I rigged pins so that if someone opened the gate a cord would pull the pins and all of the poles would roll off the shelf and onto the concrete.

Well, so far I have forgotten once, and my wife has forgotten once to unhook the cord when going into the enclosure. It scares the holy s*it out of you in the dark, and makes a racket that will wake up most of the neighbors and dogs within a block. Nothing that can hurt anyone, just really make a racket that will wake the dead and the motion light comes on.

I had thought of rigging it to a couple of ladders I have to fall over, but didn't want to kill anyone or hurt my good ladders. That was after I had been burgled, and wanted revenge, but that passed. Plus, my daughter is a police officer, and asked what would happen if the police were chasing someone and got conked. Good point.

You can get creative, make a noisy booby trap, and create an effective safe deterrent without killing someone or laying yourself bare to a lawsuit. You just gotta think about it. Standing them up on end with a cord around them and a pull string would work too, but having them fall about six feet makes enough racket to just about make you s*it your pants. Easy and cheap.

Steve

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See? Something was missing: A brain in Mr. Peas' skull.

If you own a gun for home defense, the law in your state is something you should know. Ask your attorney who he/she would call if they had to shoot someone in their house. It's usually a criminal lawyer you'll need to call. Call that lawyer and spend the hundred bucks for the short conversation so you understand your laws.

Unfortunately, you may be at the mercy of the 54%, who, like smarter people, are allowed to sit on a jury. Some will fall for the "How did Mr. Jones know for sure that the intruder was a threat?" nonsense. You really need to know your laws.

Ya know....with ideas like those metal pipes, you could probably start a part time business. I love it! Are you any good at rigging doorways with buckets of water? Think of how many offices have retirement parties each week. :-)

Ahh put up some security signs and a couple FAKE security cameras, or even real ones f you want, they turn on a recoder when activated.

No shed burglar wants his poicture taken:)

This ois the kinda trap to set, one thats OBVIOUS and thus discourage pilferage!

Exactly a kid. 16 years old, a Japanese high scool exchange student who had been n the US going to high school for two months.

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understanding

shooting justifiable.

You say this, but you seem to know nothing. You can get into serious trouble by shooting someone unless you can convince the authorities that you were in serious threat of bodily harm. All your bluster is nothing more than bluster.

Bob

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