MS Windows 7 will not have an e-mail program or a newsreader. Does this mean
the end of newsgroups like this one? Even Windows 7 has no newsgroup from
the MS News Server. Looks like the newsgroups are being replaced by web
based forums. Is this correct. Will hate to lose alt.home.repair
On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:58:12 -0500, email@example.com wrote:
:>The lack of an included program to *read* newsgroups does not mean that :>usenet is disappearing.
:There are TONS of other readers out there!
:I like and use Agent
Yeah, I use Agent, pretty old version. I know of no reason to upgrade.
I'm on 1.9xxx.
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:18:47 -0700, Dan Musicant ( firstname.lastname@example.org)
I still have a copy of Agent v 1.92xx. For a text group, you cannot go
wrong using it. Thing is I don't believe it is still available
FYI: ZIP the Agent folder into a zip file. Save it away. The next time
there is a need for a new OS / hard drive replacement, all you have to
do is un-zip the file into a folder of choice (make shortcut icon).
The app will run as a stand-alone - no need for a fresh install.
I used Agent for binary stuff but originally used Netscape for text
groups. I've been a loyal user of Thunderbird for text groups for a few
years now. I also use it for e-mail. As for binary groups, Agent got
annoying to use so I use Newsbin. Newsbin actually gives real size units
and values for attachments instead of Agent's nebulous "line count" to
inform users of attachment size.
Not necessarily. Comcast never had their own NNTP servers and simply
allowed us to authenticate at Giganews. Then after the NY AG was looking
to make himself look good by "protecting the children" Comcast had a
great excuse to eliminate access to Giganews which they promptly did. I
believe most of the major ISPs did the same.
:Walter R. wrote:
:> MS Windows 7 will not have an e-mail program or a newsreader. Does:> this mean the end of newsgroups like this one? Even Windows 7 has no:> newsgroup from the MS News Server. Looks like the newsgroups are:> being replaced by web based forums. Is this correct. Will hate to:> lose alt.home.repair
:The lack of an included program to *read* newsgroups does not mean that
:usenet is disappearing.
Yeah, I use a "3rd party" email/newsgroup reader, not Outlook or Outlook
express. It won't affect me.
I use trn4, and man is it cool. Draws a neat "tree" of the thread
and where you are within it, and the arrow-keys take you back and
forth within it.
At one time, maybe still does, it worked only on linux and unix. :-(
I heard this is for Europe as MS wants to avoid tangling with officials
there who have gone after MS as a monopoly.
Personally, I use Mozilla programs, Firefox for browsing and Thunderbird
for email and ng's.
Clearly computers allow you to install programs above and beyond what
they have "out of the box". If you should happen to find yourself using
that OS you could simply download and install whatever you need.
Here's what's going on:
Personally, over a year ago when I got a new computer with Vista it was
a real PITA to untangle MS software from taking over my computer and
getting what I wanted installed.
Unless he is buying it in Europe- to satisfy the anti-MS PTB over there,
they plan to release it w/o a browser. Not sure how they expect people
to download patches or a different browser, but hey, what the PTB want,
the PTB get.
I presume stores over there will have near-free CDs of browsers when you
buy bundled hw/sw, or shrink-wrap OS copies.
The PTB just said that MS can't include it free as part of the OS
and that it can't be an integrated part of the OS. But others can
include the browser. For instance, if Dell wants to include Firefox on
their boxes, they could. If I read the release correctly, the computer
makers can include a stand alone version of IE if they want to. It is
just that MS can't require they take the browser as part of the OS.
Searching is half the fun: life is much more manageable when thought
of as a scavenger hunt as opposed to a surprise party.
"EU to pursue antitrust case, despite Windows 7 E"
*The EU has decided to pursue its antitrust browser case against
Microsoft despite the software giant's decision to unbundle Internet
Explorer 8 from Windows 7 in Europe.
The EU can't make up their mind. Now they want IE as an option??
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