Too much drama in the article. If they froze they must have been
installed outside. If the pipes burst what was the big trauma when water
was running outside?
The best part is this caption "The units froze when the temperature
reached 38 degrees, according to Amo's attorney." really?
As with most fluff pieces nothing useful was conveyed. it would be nice
to know the actual story.
On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 8:37:54 AM UTC-4, Attila Iskander wrote:
me... >>> On 3/11/2013 8:32 AM, Dean Hoffman > wrote: >>>> http://tinyurl.c
om/b8vafws >>>> >>>> Some Eccotemp water heaters froze causing burst plumbi
ng etc. >>> >>> Too much drama in the article. If they froze they must have
been >>> installed outside. If the pipes burst what was the big trauma whe
n >>> water was running outside? >>> >>> The best part is this caption "The
units froze when the temperature >>> reached 38 degrees, according to Amo'
s attorney." really? >>> >>> As with most fluff pieces nothing useful was c
onveyed. it would be >>> nice to know the actual story. >>> >> >> Last time
I checked the temperature to freeze water was 32 degrees F not >> 38. >> >
a > wall for direct venting. Why they were installed in an area with freez
ing > temperature is beyond me. > Except for Hawaii and Death Valley, I don
't know of any area in the US that is not exposed to freezing temperatures
at some time or other.
I think southern florida and the tip of texas might both be tropical. Whic
h normally means no freezing.
I think southern florida and the tip of texas might both be tropical. Which
normally means no freezing.
What on earth are you using for a newsreader ?
You have effectively stripped out all the line feeds making your post just
about completely illegible.
I suggest you fix that soonest..
As to South Florida and Texas not freezing
On Monday, March 11, 2013 4:10:24 PM UTC-4, Attila Iskander wrote:
Yup, and water doesn't instantly freeze at 32 degrees F. If it only gets down to
32 F at night odds are good that the water wouldn't freeze. There is enough
latent heat and insulation in the unit to stave off a few hours at 32.
That's some cartoon physics to get water to freeze at 38 F.
On 03/12/2013 11:50 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
> 32 F at night odds are good that the water wouldn't freeze.
>There is enough latent heat and insulation in the unit to stave off a
few hours at 32.
Fun fact: it takes about 80 percent of the amount of energy to cool
water from 212ºF to 32ºF as it does to turn that same amount of 32ºF
water into ice.
I demonstrated that to my kids by building ice towers on our front lawn
We installed colored lights on and in the towers
They really looked cool at night..
So we left water in different sized and shaped containers to freeze outside
and tried to assess which would freeze fastest and why.
5 gallon buckets filled with plain water took longest.
5 gallon buckets filled with ice and plain water were next
Hollow cylinders of standing water did better.
Water sprayed in layers to a mold did best.
The problem with the last option was setting up a sprayer system that would
remain warm enough not to freeze up..
Was a fun exercise in creative thinking for the kids.
My guess would be that the heaters didn't cycle the burner often enough if
it all - not certain from reading the case information. If so, there are
more failures to come. They reworked some of the units, but apparently to
no avail. I wonder how many homeowners buying single units just absorbed
the loss if there was a failure. This suit was brought by a plumbing
company and covered a substantial number of units. We probably haven't
heard the last of this.
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