Range clock - Disconnect it!

My point was that the power consumption is not cut in half by removing one of the tubes. If you turn on a two tube fixture with NO tubes in it, it will draw power as well.

Rod Speed wrote: ...

...in the context of power generation

I know very well how it is used by certain advocates. Whether it is a working definition is another matter. I choose to look at an entire system rather than whether or not some label is or isn't meaningful.

You'll also note I've used "green", not green if you've been watching carefully... :)

As for breeders, again I have only expounded on what is feasible (even more so than relying on your acceptance of the conventional green definition) as being a renewable source, not that it is presently being used. You really need to read what is actually said rather than what you think is said.

It makes a HUGE difference.

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Those little cells typically can power the clock and CMOS for a heck of a long time; I wouldn't sweat it.

I think they're closing four, but out of how many?

I still think the answer is treadmills in prisons. :-)

Huh? I think he makes a valid point -- facilities must be designed for peak demand, not average demand.

Just as the microwave has a clock based timer that counts down and shuts if off too. Makes is saver for children and seniours to use over other cooking apliances. Why would you want to eliminate that? You could step back 20 years and put in a windup timer but I don't see any real savings there.

snipped-for-privacy@dog.com wrote

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

snipped-for-privacy@dog.com wrote

Nope, it doesnt with the traditional ballast that fools like you dont realise isnt a transformer.

snipped-for-privacy@dog.com wrote

Wrong, as always.

On 6/3/2008 5:34 PM Don Klipstein spake thus:

Similar story here: I have a Tyan Trinity 400 MB w/Pentium, about 8 years old, that I turn off & on daily. It has never lost CMOS data, not once. (And yes, it has the newfangled type of on-off switch, ACPI, all that type crap.)

isnt a transformer.

Sorry, Rod, but this discussion is about the laws of physics on the planet Earth. We weren't including your planet, whatever it is.

isnt a transformer.

That must be why the full name for the device is "Transformer Ballast", eh?

No it does not. Storage and handling issues are virtually identical. What happened in Rocky Flats could just as easily happen any where radioactive nuclear material is present for any purpose.

Is that your new sig? It's PERFECT!

a 1 watt load == 8769 watts/year

Asus is a top of the line motherboard, so you'd expect them to have a replaceable battery. The boards sold for use in name brand computers are decontented to save ever penny possible, literally (I used to work for a very large Taiwanese motherboard company's U.S. office). This includes using a very low capacity back-up battery, and soldering it in.

Remember the large rectangular Tadiran batteries with a wire and a connector used on old AT motherboards? They used these because the battery had to power the RTC and CMOS for long periods of time because when the power was off there was no +5V to power the RTC. The ATX supply changed all this. There were other reasons as well. With the ATX supply, there is power to the PCI slots so you can do remote power-up through the network (though with most boards these days the Ethernet chip is on the board, and can be powered directly with standby power).

That analysis uses the accounting of debiting peak load deficits against a wind generator is intellectually dishonest. The correct way is to credit a wind generator's output against a conventional plant's fuel consumption.

One watt-hour provided from wind is one watt-hour not required of coal.

Now, if we really really want to persist in that sort of thinking, one might imagine a magical future where somehow the impossible happens and we contravene the laws of thermodynamics by using our wind energy to excite an energy storing oscillator.

But that's impossible, unfortunately, so we could never imagine B-field storage (apropos of which results were recently published of a new apparently b-field-quench resistant (quench-proof?) ceramic superconductor) , nor Ke storage, nor hydrogen storage nor water resevoir storage schema for load leveling. oh, wait.

That's why i call it dishonest. Because the limitations of windmill technology do not require us to build more fossil fuel plants, and because it's "relatively" trivial to built energy storage systems to buffer their output, should we deem it helpful to do so.

Hi, If we talk about energy saving, how about we start driving smaller vehicles. No monster SUV like Hummer or big gas guzzler V8, V10 engines. Why we need a Hummer going grocery shopping?