Question about breaking the bead using a harbor freight bead breaker?

[Frank Baron]

On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 18:30:44 +0000, Stormin' Norman advised:

I went to HF and bought all the weights that they had, and I returned that stupid bead breaker bar (which was useless) but I kept the two 24-inch tire irons.

Since I have been successful at breaking the bead, and since the bead on my friend's automotive tire was a cinch, I decided to stick with the reinforced old bead breaker attachment.

This is the bent bead breaker attachment:

This is it straightened out again:

This is it reinforced with a fence post:

This is the red tire iron attachment afterward:

What I now know, and what I would have told anyone who asked the same questions I asked just a couple of days ago, is that the HF tire changer is a POS but you can make it work if you strengthen it up like Clare suggests.

1. You have to put a block of something stiff in that bead breaker arm!
2. You should NOT use the red tire iron for the lever for breaking the bead either (use a pipe because the tire iron bent too).
3. You should replace the clevis adjustment pins (thanks Clare!) with bolts so as to reduce the slop

Once you do those three things, the POS HF tire changer should work to break the bead of the tougher SUV tires (it works fine on easier passenger car tires).

[Tekkie®]

[e-mail] posted for all of us...

Is that the one with the teeth in a trough in the floor? We had one of them and customers would just shake their heads when we we wouldn't try to nick them for unneeded services.

[Tekkie®]

[e-mail] posted for all of us...

Don't forget the split rims; could be killers. One of the firefighters I know killed himself when he didn't do it correctly - in his day job, not ff.

[Tekkie®]

Frank Baron posted for all of us...

You missed something...

Lube new Schrader valve prior to next step

Lube the tire beads prior to the next two steps.

[Tekkie®]

Frank Baron posted for all of us...

But the wire in the bead might get bent in shipping...

[Phil Kangas]

"Frank Baron"

PLONK!!!!

[Frank Baron]

On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 15:12:02 -0500, Tekkie? advised:

Or, they can ship the wrong shade of black.

[Frank Baron]

On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 15:08:11 -0500, Tekkie? advised:

Good point. The dish detergent helped wonderfully.

[clare]

And wherever you bought them, they are a mediocre tire at best. Their OEM tires on Hyundai cars have a very short lifespan and are possibly the worst part on the car.

Well, here is a double blind test done on the Sailun snow tires I installed on my wife's Taurus - as an example.

It rtook me less than 5 minutes to find when I did the initial investigation into the tires that were offered to me, and about 35 seconds to find on Google just now - - -

[clare]

[FromTheRafters]

It happens that Tekkie® formulated :

It could get bullet holes too if it travels through Chicago.

[clare]

Well, I can tell you with certainty that the tires will be basically unusable long before I put 75000 miles on them!! That's 120,000km - or 10 years of my average driving on either vehicle. After 6 years the rubber has hardened to the point they should no longer be driven on the road, in most cases.

It's no witch hunt. There are many cases of "unsafe" tires being sold in the USA (and Canada)

No, using simple logic, airflight is still the safest transportation in the world. Walking is more dangerous when deaths per passenger (traveller) mile are compaered.

Man, you sound just like Donald Trump!!!! Trumped up responses.

[Tekkie®]

Frank Baron posted for all of us...

I call BS on you as I too have done what Clare has. I don't like your polite crap. Be a man. You will also note I have posted several replies to you that went unacknowledged. I still think you are a troll but am trying to work with you. Clare has given you good advice and you ignore it with your hypothetical musings. Clare has even apologized to the group for a minor mis posting. Take your pompous attitude and learn. I thought he was going into defib with some of your postings.

I am curious as to what is your profession?

What do you do that benefits the world around you?

[clare]

Acelylene is unstable at anything over about 6PSI, which is why it is stored under pressure disolved in acetone..

The heat value of acetylene is a LOT higher than Propane.

Propane is OK for use in a cutting torch, but I'd hate to have to weld with it. Also, The reason Propane ( and other alternative fuels ) are not suitable is that when Acetylene is burning with Oxygen it creates a cone of CO2 forming a shielding gas over the weld puddle. Propane does not produce this shielding CO2. Even when cutting it makes a LOT more slag - clean cuts are virtually impossible.

When you get down to it - ALL tools should be respected.

[clare]

and extremely dangerous without having it checked out by a qualified technician.

[clare]

That's the gem

[clare]

Only a total fool will touch them without a cage or a few really stout chains. I've worke on them p- as noted - and I've seen the results of stupidity.

[clare]

I'm getting close!!

[Stormin' Norman]

I have read and heard similar things but I have produced beautiful welded, brazed and silver soldered joints with Oxy Propane. Must be one of those things that isn't supposed to work, but does.

OK, good advice, kind of like:

"Treat every gun as if it's loaded and every woman as if she isn't."

That one is mine, you may use it but please provide proper attribution. ;-)

[Stormin' Norman]

Real men aren't polite?