I disagree. It sucks for the woman, but if people don't have the common sense about hot beverages, it's not the fault of anyone else.
If they settle due to the fault of the user, then when does it stop? John Q 1 through 1000 will also sue because they can get a settlement. The systems is already effed because the courts allow stupidity as legitimate.
Agreed.
If they pay, then the line increases with other frivolous law suits expecting a payout because they d=know they can.
Insurance companies are the biggest scammers in this current era.
But you're aware of the fact it's hot and can scald your skin if spilled and aware there's the potential to squeeze it too hard and squeeze the liquid out or pop the lid when it's between your legs.
I have no sympathy for lack of common sense.
I stand corrected, but no, it doesn't matter.
As MP John Reimer said several years back- "they do things differently in Quebec". He was sanctioned for it - but he was RIGHT
I'm sure it was. Did they call the fire department? Any old, sickly people on the escalator?
It was McDonalds's fault You probably dont' know all the facts. No quotation marks for the quotes below:
In the decade before Liebecks spill, McDonalds had received 700 reports of people burning themselves. McDonalds admitted that its coffee was a hazard at such high temperatures. But it continued the practice, enforced by official McDonalds policy, of heating up its coffee to near-boiling point.
Liebeck didnt want to go to court. She just wanted McDonalds to pay her medical expenses, estimated at $20,000. McDonalds only offered $800, leading her to file a lawsuit in 1994.
After hearing the evidence, the jury concluded that McDonalds handling of its coffee was so irresponsible that Liebeck should get much more than $20,000, suggesting she get nearly $2.9 million to send the company a message. Liebeck settled for less than $600,000. And McDonalds began changing how it heats up its coffee.
So how did the publics view of this case get so warped? According to Conover, lawyers spent years running a disinformation campaign, which much of the media bought into, holding up the McDonalds coffee lawsuit as an example of a supposed epidemic of frivolous lawsuits.
Doesn't apply here
It does matter somewhat since they don't use a grille at Burger King. The patties go through a flame broiler and if there was any residual grease on that chain mat it would quickly be burned off.
There was an elderly lady. They had her straddle the railing and slid her down. She said she hasn't felst so good since her husband died.
You should not be drinking the coffee while driving. If you spill it, even if it is a drink that is not hot like water and you have to make a sudden stop or have to make a quick turn you will be distracted.
However in some of the traffic jams I have seen , you can drink that cup of coffee before you go a block, even giving it time to cool down.
I missed who you were responding to. I thought you were correcting me on the burning coffee location.
IMO, I still have no sympathy. Coffee, hot chocolate, tea and other hot beverages are "HOT". Drinking a hot beverage and driving is risky enough, setting it between your legs increases the risk. Tough nookies. She isn't owed anything for her stupidity.
How hot is your coffee? Probably hotter than you think.
Last month, an Albuquerque, N.M., jury awarded $2.7 million to a woman scalded by McDonald’s coffee--an amount reduced this week to $480,000 by the trial judge.
The jury blamed McDonald’s for continuing to sell coffee at a temperature the company knew could cause burns. Evidence showed McDonald’s coffee was hotter than that served at other restaurants.
Perhaps in Albuquerque. According to our admittedly unscientific survey, at least one Burger King and one Starbucks outlet serve coffee hotter than McDonald’s. We found temperatures ranging from a low of 157 degrees at Primo’s, a small chain of coffee shops, to a high of 182 degrees at one Downtown Los Angeles Burger King.
In the Albuquerque case, it was disclosed that McDonald’s brews coffee at 195 to 205 degrees and holds it at 180 to 190 degrees.
If you conduct this temperature test at home, you may find similar results with your own coffee. According to the Assn. of Home Appliances Manufacturers, brewing temperatures for coffee makers range from 170 to
205 degrees.The coffee industry is loath to turn down the heat, despite potential liability for burns. The Specialty Coffee Assn., whose members include coffee roasters, retailers and restaurants, says coffee tastes best if brewed at 195 to 205 degrees.
Ted Lingel, executive director of the association, said members are discussing other safety measures, such as printing warnings on cups--already a practice at McDonald’s--and using spill-proof lids.
I wonder how long it will be until they reverse the drive through so the food goes in the passenger window. There is no placeable reason to believe a driver, alone in the car is not going to be eating and drinking while they drive. Eating a whopper or drinking hot coffee is every bit as distracting as holding a cell phone. I doubt you can buy a mixed drink at the drive through anymore. That used to be a thing in Southern Md.
There is a difference between brewing and serving coffee. Presumably McDonalds is in the business of serving coffee.
Must have been those little hockey pucks they put on the rails so the juvenile delinquents down slid on them. One of the staircases in town has stainless steel silhouettes of salmon on the rail. Anybody trying to slide down them isn't going to have to pay for a sex change operation.
You're kidding, right? You really don't want to think about what truckers get up to. I used to make sandwiches while going down the road at 65 with the cruise control set.
Whoppers aren't bad although the dressing tends to drip on your crotch. Colonel Sanders chicken is a disaster though. Nothing like a well greased steering wheel.
I've seen drive through liquor stores but I've never seen single serving drinks.
Not that hot.
Maybe it's my fault for leaving out part of the facts on that.
McDonalds didnt just serve their coffee hot their operations manual required that is be served between 180 and 190 degrees; 30-40 degrees hotter than other coffee-serving restaurants in the area. The Shriners Burn Institute in Cincinnati issued warnings that coffee served above
130 degrees was dangerously hot. McDonalds knew that their coffee was not fit for consumption at the temperature it was served because it caused third-degree burns within 3-7 seconds of contact with the skin. In the ten years prior to this accident they had 700 complaints of burns from their coffee, including complaints of burns to children and infants from accidental spills.(Or maybe it's your fault for not reading the posts I gave, or concentrating on editorials you like. Or maybe you're just callous. Wait until something like this happens to someone you care about.)
This one is just betting nothing will go wrong. There are lots of negligent places like this, not just regarding coffee.
And McD's excuse was that it should still be hot after people drove to work. Here they are already in downtown. How long does it take to walk to work from there.
Have you done this?
And not meant to be carried in a moving car.
Maybe, but it doesn't have to be kept as hot as it is. They can let it cool before selling it at the drive-in window.
How do you get the cream and sugar in.
At the very least you should believe by now that the woman had a reasonable case and not one to be cited as without substantial merit.
No. Life has risk. Virtually everything we do has risk. The slip-n-fall scammers should be euthanized.
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