In my country, "they" means something different than does "I". What was your native language again?
--Goedjn
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Per mile, or per gallon?
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1 Gallon of Gasoline = 125,000 Btu 1 Gallon of Ethanol = 80,000 Btu
Find wholesaler pretax prices of each and do the math.
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I think you misjudge the ability of life to deal with our excess.
Have you noticed that crop yields have also increased with the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.
It could be that it is simply the action of fertilizer and selective breeding alone, but I've noticed that when I dose aquatic plants with excess CO2 they proliferate rapidly.
One might even suggest that to continue our parisitic relationship with the world, humans may require an increasing atmospheric CO2 quantity just to meet our food needs... that is if our increasing population trend continues (and it shows no great signs of slowing down).
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True, but I'm betting this one won't be one of them...we can "hide and watch" so to speak.
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Actually, at today's pump prices, both if one looks at production/wholesale costs. There's a penalty against ethanol at the retail market just now in that there's yet a small enough distribution channel that it gets priced more nearly at the equivalent gasoline level than is required.
Yes, in real terms, that being the actual economic system in which we operate.
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Ignoring petroleum subsidies again, eh?
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oh, so having our military in the middle east to keep supplies open is "free" then? How about the money spent combatting asthma, cancer, and poolution. That's all free as well? We pay those bills, and that's a subsidy.
You must have ignored this last time I gave it to you:
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I observe that your favorite rhetorical technique is "Begging the Question".
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This conversation is being conducted in English. All forms of English to which I am aware, do not contain any other word to describe a group of animate and/or inanimate objects with a pronoun other than "they."
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Not in real terms, that is "without subsidies."
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Petroleum prices are not subsidized, they are taxed. Exactly the opposite.
Subsidies make the prices LOWER.
Taxes make the price HIGHER.
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What the hell are you talking about? Where is the price of petroleum subsidized?
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From my perspective, that's incomprehensible... :)
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But there is a lot of hard white and red wheat grown as well somewhere down there--otherwise we wouldn't be fighting so hard for market export share... :) Duram is a spring wheat in the US grown in the northern areas as a summer crop...
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No faster than those here, I'm sure. :) Actually, that raises an interesting question--is most of your ag equipment designed/built there or is it from somewhere else, perhaps adapted to specific conditions?
Typical new machine for us--
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One difference w/ us may be that we're all dryland in rain-limited areas so that a variety which reaches 2 ft in trials where the rainfall is adequate probably won't make that in most years for us. Add to that the shorter than average heads and one is running the header on the ground to avoid missing some heads.
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Which was precisely my point which seems to contradict your earlier post to which I responded, thus starting off this most interesting sub-thread.... :)
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Much of that (at least in the US, and I would assume in Oz as well or it would already be doing something else) isn't suited for other than range land.
I great number of cattle are also fed on dual-purpose crops already such as what we do--we run heifers on wheat pasture and milo stubble over the fall/winter/early spring, take them off in the spring and send them on to the feeders while the wheat goes on to grain and we prepare non-summer fallow ground for the spring planting...
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As much proof as you that they are...
As I replied to JoeSixPack on the subject when he complained that "fringe science" led to new discoveries--"Maybe, but I don't believe this one is going to be one. We can just hide and watch"
I expect this to not be shown to be.
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By "us" here I mean our specific situation (which is pretty representative of a lot of US production but certainly not universal), not us in the sense of all US producers...
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My reading of what papers/references I have seen tempered by my engineering/physics training...
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Er, no. CO2 level rose from about 280 PPM to 370 PPM.
That is a rise of 90 from a baseline of 280, or an increase of over 30%
No, that wouldn't make any sense at all.