OT: Who is smarter, a bird or a turtle?

Sep 06, 2019 8 Replies

I'm engaged in a conversation with my brother-in-law on this ridiculous subject. Google hasn't been much help, neither has Quora. Any logical opinions?


Maybe "Is a bird more evolved than a turtle?" would be a better question.

Birds seem to be smarter than the title bird-brain makes them sound.

Have you seen the famous video of a bird bending a wire to make a hook, so he can lift a tiny bucket of food out of a hole that's too small for him to stick his head in and eat the food directly?

IIRC tool usage was thought at one time to be a human-only activity, and for sure tool-making was thought to be that.

OTOH,maybe he was a bird genius. And where are the trade schools and vocational high schools build by one set of bird to teach these skills to the younger generation of birds?

About turtles I know even less

Excellent video. I haven't seen or heard of a turtle using a tool.

Wow. That's really impressive. And I didn't know grubs came that big.

I've heard there are bird sanctuaries now which don't allow birds to carry a stick when they enter. Open or concealed.

That's because turtles hire birds to do their hard work.

I've seen this before. Very good.

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I hate it when dogs are scared of almost anything that moves. AT least some of these aren't.

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