I guess it's possible. But, that's not the sense I got
at that moment. It's been a lot of years, but I remember
her being very believable.
I've also known of people to lose a contact lens outdoors,
got asked to borrow my flash light one time for just that.
2 cell phone incidents, one from each side - I found one, my daughter lost
hers. Both were returned to the rightful owner.
The Phone I Found...
I was walking along a wooded trail in a park near my home and found a cell
phone. A quick scan of the contacts showed an area code from a different
state. I found a contact for "Big Sister", called that number and left a
message that I had found the phone and gave them my cell phone number. A
few minutes later my phone rang and it was the mom of the girl who owned
the phone. (I guess they chose to have an adult call me instead of one of
the daughters) It turned out that the out-of-state family was visiting
friends in my town and had been walking the same trail earlier that
morning. They said they were close by, so I told them I would wait. A few
minutes later the Dad showed up. I handed him the phone, he handed me a
bottle of wine and a handshake later we both went our separate ways.
The Phone My Daughter Lost...
My daughter goes to college in a different town. Last winter she called to
tell me that she lost her iPhone and asked if I could track it for her. I
logged into Find My iPhone (FMiP) and located the phone on the corner of a
road near her dorm. It was a snowy, wintery day, so she needed a few
minutes to get dressed and get down there. By the time she got to the
corner I could see that the phone was "on the move". She tried to follow
the directions I gave her, but it was moving too fast. We assume it was in
a car. I used the FMiP app to lock the phone and put a message on the
screen to call my cell number if the phone was found. The next day FMiP
located the phone sitting still near a house a few miles from the school.
The campus police said they couldn't help because it was off-campus, the
local police said they couldn't just go knocking on doors demanding the
cell phone back. Later that day the iPhone went off-line and we lost track
Two months later, on the same day that my daughter went back to school
after the holidays, I got a call from a number with the area code where my
daughter goes to college. At first I thought her current phone must be dead
and she was calling from a friend's phone to tell me she was back at
school. However, when I answered, it was a girl who said her Mom had found
the iPhone about a week ago in a snow bank in the parking lot where she
worked. They let it dry out, charged it up and saw my number on the screen.
I told her I would have my daughter call her, they met up (my daughter
brought a male friend just to be safe) and my daughter got her iPhone back.
It worked fine, even though it had been outside for at least a portion of
the two month period since she lost it.
It must be good karma. My daughter's iPhone was lost before I
found/returned the other phone and returned to her afterwards. My good deed
They can't (without a warrant), but you can. But if they're trying to
steal it, they won't cooperate with you either, and it won't be there
when you do get the warrant. But if they are nice folks (as these
were), you get your phone.
Before iPhone existed, my son lost one that had a GPS tracking chip in
it. I got on-line and the map showed it in a driveway a mile away. I
know GPS is not always accurate, but I figured it likely it was in that
They all said they knew nothing about it, but finally one of the
kidssaid, "Oh, wait--I gave [my son] a ride a couple of days ago."
Searched the car and found it. GPS was spot on this time.
While perhaps I can, I certainly wasn't going to drive 700 miles to help my
daughter get her iPhone back. In addition, I was not going to suggest to my
daughter that she and her friends go to the house and demand the phone.
It was hard to tell from the app if it was in the house, in a car parked
next to the house or on the ground next to the house. The map location was
slightly to the right of the actual house. There was a large open yard next
to the house and it appeared that the phone might have been in that yard.
It was stationary for about 12 hours next to the house, then it moved to a
parking lot a few miles away where it was once again stationary for hours
before it went off-line.
AFAIK the folks that returned the phone had nothing to do with the house
where it sat for a while. The "nice folks" were simply the ones who found
the phone and called the number I put on the screen - unless she was lying
to me and had the phone for two months and then finally decided it was of
no use to her since it was locked. I doubt that. I can't imagine a thief -
or even a innocent "finder" - hanging on to the phone for 2 months and then
deciding to call. A finder would call as as soon as they could (as in this
case) and a thief would probably just toss the phone in a parking lot (as
it appears to be in this case).
I've used the GPS feature of SWMBO's Droid to keep track of her when she's
on long road trips. She drives very slow and even though she calls to check
in every now and then, it takes her so much longer than most people that I
get nervous. I "check in" via the GPS tracker every now and then just to
make sure she's still on route and moving.
One time I "found" her on a small state road instead of the interstate. I
waited until I saw the phone stop and then called her and asked her if she
was lost. She was surprised that I knew but then humorously called me a
RTFM. One's reward comes from believing that Jesus is the son of God,
that he was a real man, that he came to Earth, and that he died on the
cross to take away our sins so that we might have eternal life. Those
who accept this, and his teachings will reap the rewards. No amount of
good deeds can get you into heaven. (This is one of the major different
points between Mormonism and Christianity, where Mormons believe that
their good deeds and temple rituals get them their own planet in the
heavenly universe.) And no modified doctrines or "new" prophecies will
create new rules and/or change the Word of God. Galatians 1:6-9, Rev.
22:18-19. It is interesting that almost the last word of the Bible is a
warning against adding to the Bible or changing it. Many strong
warnings are given against people who want to be false teachers, or just
followers who are easily lead. James 3:1. The Bible is full of
warnings of the coming churches, many passages aimed directly at the LDS
faith. In Titus 1:5-9, the requirements for a deacon are spelled out.
It describes a fully grown married man with children. In the LDS faith,
boys are made deacons automatically at age 12.
But the Mormons say, " The bible is true as far as it is correctly
interpreted." That statement converts to strike out anything that
contradicts Mormonism. Well, if you strike chapter and verse that are
directly copied from the Bible to Book of Mormon, you'd have a skeleton
left. And if the Bible is not true, and the Book of Mormon is based on
the bible, then it, too is not true. You can't have it both ways.
So far, no trace of the ancient Mormon civilization they created in the
New World has been found. Not one inscription. Not one potshard. The
Smithsonian has stated that on paper. And their numbers were described
"as many as the grains of sand on the beach." This is a direct
plagiarism from a Bible verse. Recent DNA studies of 3500 North and
South American Indian tribes shows that only .05% of all the current
Indian tribes in North and South America came from the Middle east, the
area where the founders Laman and Lemuel came from. Most came from the
areas of Siberia and Mongolia. The Mormons had been claiming all
Indians as descendents of the Mormons, until the Indians took exception,
and took them to task legally. They were also baptizing victims of the
Holocaust, and the Jewish faith took that to task. Essentially, it
amounted to changing the faith of a Jew to a Mormon by the baptism of a
young proxy temple worker at a LDS temple behind locked doors. But,
hey, until you're caught, it's okay, right?
Put it this way: A decent honest person would have returned the wallet
just because it was the right thing to do. No rewards expected.
Christian, Hindu, Mormon, Taoist, or Shintu. Right is right, and we
don't get any points for doing what is right. Especially if someone
finds out about it. Anonymous good deeds are the only pure ones.
Deborah Laake - Secret Ceremonies ........ a book of a Mormon woman. An
interesting read, but sometimes it takes three months to get one at a
local library, as Mormons check out the book for a year at a time, and
pay the fine to keep it out of public circulation.
www.exmormon.org Hear it from people who BTDT
And whatever you believe, investigate it thoroughly.
That's an excellent admonition. No offense intended but one of the things
that people might want to check is how the bible came to be (if it pertains
to you). The origin of the book of Mormon could stand some scrutiny too.
With the expansion of new ET evidence, and the across-the-board
similarities of the founding of most religions by "Sky People", even my
beliefs are shaking.
But, basically, I think in all it comes back to a light/dark, good/evil
I just know that living among people who believe in something greater
than man or even just greater than the sum total of mankind, is better
than living in a world of people who don't. I know, having tried both.
CY: Nope, but good deeds sure can improve things once you get there.
Unlike binary (are you a 100 or a 0?) Christians, Mormons believe that
hard work and keeping the commandments has its reward.
(This is one of the major different
CY: Which was put there in about 1,000 AD by King James men. But, it
didn't say that God has finished speaking.
CY: Says you....
In Titus 1:5-9, the requirements for a deacon are spelled out.
CY: You don't know much about the Mormon faith, I see?
CY: I've heard that old bit about "no trace". It's a crock, plenty of
Recent DNA studies of 3500 North and
CY: Be curious to see some evidence of this.
They were also baptizing victims of the
CY: You display your ignorance, again. The ordinances are optional to
the deceased. They don't have to convert. Yes, the Jews did object, and
the practice has been discontinued.
CY: hear it from people who lost their faith, and have become
antagonists. Not any chance of objective truth, here.
In the spring of 1842, the Prophet Joseph Smith sent a letter to John
Wentworth, who was editor of a newspaper called the Chicago Democrat.
This letter contained an account of many of the events of early Church
history. The document also contained thirteen statements outlining
Latter-day Saint beliefs. These have come to be known as the Articles of
Faith, which are given below.
The Articles of Faith are official doctrine of the Church and have been
canonized as a part of latter-day scripture. They are clear statements
of belief that help members understand the basic beliefs of the Church
and explain these beliefs to others. They are not, however, a complete
summary of Church doctrine. Through living prophets, the Church is
guided by continuous revelation and inspiration.
1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ,
and in the Holy Ghost.
2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for
3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be
saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel
are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third,
Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of
hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the
laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel
and administer in the ordinances thereof.
6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive
Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and
7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions,
healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated
correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal,
and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things
pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration
of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the
American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth;
and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the
dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege,
let them worship how, where, or what they may.
12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and
magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and
in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the
admonition of Paul--We believe all things, we hope all things, we have
endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there
is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek
after these things.
If you read the Bible, it says the true test of prophecy is time. If a
prophet prophecies, and it comes true, then they are a prophet. The LDS
history is shot full of prophesies that are lies or failed to come true.
What about the one that said it was a requirement for a man to have
multiple wives to enter Paradise?
Oh, wait a minute!
Let's change the law to get statehood.
Blacks in the church becoming unPC, holding them down from the priesthod?
Wait a minute!
A faith that changes with the winds of politics isn't a faith.
The Book of Mormon does include some quotes from the real Bible, but
they are only a small percentage of the whole thing. I find it
interesting that the book of Mormon contradicts some of Joseph Smith's
3 Nephi 24:6 —
"For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not
Jacob 2:24 —
"Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which
thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord."
Compare that to
Now, did God really give David something that was abominable before Him?
“There ain't nothin' in this world that's worth being a snot over.”
Specifically, the King James bible. There are numerous bibles.
I find it interesting that those biblical quotes - regardless of their
number - are in a book that was (supposedly) written 1000 years +- before
the book from which they are quoted. (Actually, they aren't "quoted" -
i.e., attributed - just copied.)
Well, for the "benefit of the doubt," if both are inspired by God, then
it's conceivable that he might repeat himself on an important subject.
And when I am translating something, I often consult literature to see
how someone else said a similar thing.
But then again, Smith claimed that the magic eyeglasses showed him what
I was impressed at how hard those magic glasses tried (but failed) to
imitate King James era English grammar.
The man who reads nothing at all is better educated
I forgot to include the comparison:
"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, ..."
(Joseph Smith, 7 Apr 1844)
For background, read
“To know what you prefer, instead of humbly saying
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