ot Printer found with time set for Atlantic Ocaan

Not a question.

I found on the grass between the sidewalk and the curb, in front of a house, a printer-copier-scanner-fax.

It looks pretty nice except there is a powder bigger than flour and smaller than salt, and light brown, in the input tray. I'll clean it off so it doesn't get in the mechanism. Maybe it did already and that's why he's throwing it away.

But the reason I'm posting is I connected some house current and the date/time in it was 3 hours later than here. I'm in the Eastern Time Zone and I think anything 3 hours east of here is in the middle of the Atlantic!

Well, except for Greenland and Brazil, and probably French Guiana and a little Suriname It just misses St. Johns in Newfoundland and Labrador.

Maybe he came from Greenland.

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micky
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"In Canada, the provinces of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia are in the Atlantic Time Zone. Prince Edward Island and small portions of Quebec (eastern Côte-Nord and the Magdalen Islands) are also following the Atlantic Standard Time, as well as the Virgin Islands of the United States." - wikipedia

Before 8am Eastern Standard Time, there's 7am Atlantic Standard Time and before that, there is 6am Newfoundland Standard Time.

Reply to
bruce bowser

More likely is the time just wasn't set. The "powder" you see sounds like developer beads, the media that carries toner to the paper. Be sure you do a good job cleaning that up. A few stray beads will wreck the photoconductor. You probably need a new developer and toner cartridge just to find out why he threw it away. .

Reply to
gfretwell

Laser or ink-jet?

Reply to
Marilyn Manson

Ink jet. It's very nice, HP OfficeJet 4360.

this is why I asked in another thread about electrostatic rags. It has in the paper tray a lot of powder and I wanted the rags to get it out of the corners and crevices. But I got impatient, and Cindy says it's a gimmick anyhow, and in my own rag box I found a flannel sleeve from a robe I never owned. It's red with greyish frogs on it. Where did I get that.

I cleaned some but had to remove the paper tray. It took more than an hour and I didn't get absolutely everything. I used jumper wires to connect the power, and by golly it works. One of the reviews complained he had to get within 3 feet of the wifi to connect, but mine did fine from more than 30 feet.

Also, I haven't tried but it also lets you print directly from your cell phone, and probably to scan into your phone. Plus get this, you can register at HP for an email address for the printer, send an attachment from anywhere and it will print that. I suspect/hope the PC doesn't even have to be on if the printer is wifi connected to a router, although I'll never have any use for this. If you're a traveling salesman, or someone who travels for business and wants a paper record, it would be great. Any other uses?

The big problem seems to be the cost of the ink. They are about $37 for a black and a tri-color. Unlike the Espson and the Brother I have, which I was surprised to see work fine with cruddy 3rd-party ink, HP is really insistent on their ink. One of the printer utilities with 6 tabs includes warnings about ink in 4 of them, encouraging notifying t heir fraud department if you end up with counterfeit cartridges.

Another tab has a way to keep your cartridges from being used in another printer. Were people stealing cartridges? But at least you can print with only one of them if you take out the empty one.

You can buy an ink and syringe set that costs only 18 dollars and they say is good for 5 or 10 fillings, probably 5 because there was something about air being left in the cartridge, but that's still 1/10th the price. However if you let the cartridge get empty, it knows about that and cancels itself. You have to refill before it gets empty, and even then I think it threatens you that the level indicators may not work after that.

But the other problem is that I'm connected to the PC control panel, the ink level indicator, probably printing, but not for scanning. It won't scan (and this one has no SD slot in it so it can only scan to the PC, not to memory). When you even start to scan it says I'm not connected, and eventually it hints that I should register with HP! I wonder if this is so they can send you threatening emails if you use bad ink cartridges. But even registering didn't work yet. I'll see if it works after restarting the PC and the printer. One of the instructions for something (not this) was to unplug the printer for a while. (For this they wanted you to uninstall everything, at 3 places, and reinstall it all. Maybe later. (and of course I already have a good Brother all-in-one. )

Another annoyance is their stupid webpages that have one or even two pop-up boxes that interfere with reading the page, and they show up every time for every page, even I think if you looked at the tab before and it reloaded when you came back. I wrote to them last year when I got an HP computer about how annoying this is but they haven't changed it. I wrote a firmer message this time.

Also installing the software looked simple, one big .exe to do everything, but then they came up with something else and I think a second thing. One was software from MS. It was confusing.

(I had to install on the laptop software for the Brother printer, and that really was simple.)

This printer may predates win10, but i'm sure that's not the problem.

Reply to
micky

For vacuuming laser printer toner, they use a vacuum for the purpose that has a hepafilter for the collection bag. If you use a conventional vacuum cleaner, the bag can leak enough particulate, for you to end up with toner dust in your lungs.

For unknown powders, you do run some (tiny) risk. There are some really obnoxious powders someone could dump all over the place. For example, when policemen go into a drug house, sometimes they're overcome by carfentanyl residue and have to be carted out and given more than one application of naloxone. Carfentanyl is the material known to be able to "sedate an elephant", it doesn't take much to leave you on the floor, sedated and soon to be dead. They need to wear gloves at a minimum, when in there. If they know the house will be "bad enough", people go in with self-contained breathing gear.

The printer might have been pulled out for a "failure to pay rent", rather than being removed because it wasn't wanted any more. We've all seen apartments with sofas and chairs on the lawn, from evicted tenants. The tenants never seem to pick up the furniture, which suggests it could be rental furniture and actually owned by a store.

While the powder might be recognizable (toast crumbs or cracker crumbs), there is a world of possibility. Nobody thinks of the waste removal people and they could leave just about any "chemical challenge" on the side of the road.

Not everyone is your friend in society.

Paul

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Paul

Thanks for your concern. This was the only thing out there, and it's the second all-in-one printer I've found. The first one**, the Brother, was like new, still with the plastic labels stuck to it, so of course I had positive expectations of this one.

**The first one was so good I began to have doubts that he was really throwing it away, even though it too, a mile or so from the second one, was sitting on the grass between the curb and the sidewalk. I went back to the house, rang the doorbell, and the guy who answered wasn't unfriendly, but showed no interest in talking about it. I can only guess it belonged to an ex-girlfriend or roommate that he disliked who had left it behind, and he had a printerr

BTW, in NY, they don't put furniture on the street. If a landlord evicts someone, he has to do it in the presence of the sheriff, has to hire a moving company to take everything to storage, and I think he has to pay for the first month's storage. To get the stuff back, the tenant, I assumed, but I see below** that I'm wrong, has to pay the first month and the moving fee (both of which are returned to the landlord i think) and if he doesn't, I guess the storage comapny disposes of it as any other non-paying tenant, hiring someone to clean it out, who sells. I don't know what happens if all the tenant to search his stuff taking some of it and leaving the rest. if he has no place to put everything.

**It's even more pro-tenant than I guessed, not that I'n opposed to that. "The landlord is supposed to store your property somewhere safe. Your property should not just be thrown out, or put on the curb. Also, your landlord cannot refuse to give back your property until you pay rent. If your landlord does any of these things or even threatens to, call a lawyer right away. Although the law is not clear about how long the landlord must store your property, landlords often will try to throw away or sell the property after thirty days. If you have not contacted the landlord to get your property back, you may not be able to successfully sue the landlord for the value of your property.

If your property is put in storage, try to move it into your new home as soon as you can. After thirty days it can be difficult to recover property which has been placed in storage."

Of course I'm not in NY so none of this applies.

True. The flannel was thick enough it seemed to absorb some of it, and I shook it out outside half-way through. Careful not to breathe any. OTOH I tasted it! Had no taste. Unless Corona has taken away my ability to taste. (Just kiding.)

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micky

The materials I've seen outside apartments, it is not clear what the conditions of removal were. Maybe the tenant just left, did not renew lease, and left "garbage" in the unit, which was subsequently left on the street.

Some places, you never see this happen. Other places, it's happened multiple times.

And the material can sit outside for longer than a month. I saw one Lazy Boy that was sitting out with snow on it, all winter. Classic Canadian goodness, a Lazy Boy covered in snow. Why couldn't they have left a TV set, with Monday Night football playing on it continuously. So it would all look authentic.

Paul

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Paul

BTW, this is just the first webpage I found that talked about eviction in NY. Maybe some don't express things so vaguely.

They definitely do what you said in some/many?/most? places after normal evictions. NY is very pro-tenant, comparitively.

You're in Canada? No wonder I can't always understand your posts.

Good question.

Once in Brooklyn NY someone tried to evict me. He seemed to not notice my most recent rent payment, maybe 40 days earlier, and he skipped the

30 day notice and went straight to the 72 hour notice, which I saw when I was leaving for work Friday morning. In my fairly typical irresponsible manner, I drove to work, parked at the Fulton Fish market and went away from the weekend after work. When I got home monday evening, I coudlnt' get into my apt. The sheriff had been there and he'd changed the locks.

I was scared but not as much as I should have been. I went straight upstairs and asked the girls there if I coudl go out their window, went down one flight on the fire escape, broke a window and went into my apartment. Changed the lock to a spare I kept. I learned later that day that they hadn't taken anything becuase I had more stuff than would fit in their truck!! Thank goodness for that. And who would have thunk it? Next day I stayed home until they came again, and they came around

10, woudln't let them in, negotiated with the landlord on the phone, I don't remember this but I must have pointed out that his eviction was illegal, and he agreed that I coudl go with his general factotum to the bank and pay the current rent for which I was 10 days late in cash, and pay for the sheriff, about 400 dollars. Of course I shouldn't have paid the 400 but I got it back years later by offering to move if he gave me 1000 dollars. (I had already bought a house in Baltimore! He jumped at my offer. I was almost sorry I hadn't said 2000, but I really just wanted the money he owed me.) He also owed me interest on my security deposit, 300 dollars, for 11 years. He must have had no intention to pay that, because he never mentioned it, before or after. I rented from an honest, but racist, woman, but she moved to florida and sold to him.
Reply to
micky

Yeah, but this printer was THREE hours later than it is here.

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micky

Call Sherlock Holmes or Columbo - this must be the mystery-of-the-year and worthy of a movie or at least a TV mini series ! ... geeesh .. Micky. John T.

Reply to
hubops

Maybe he just never used the FAX and that is really the only thing that cares what time it is. Even that will work just fine with the wrong time but it might confuse the recipient.

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gfretwell
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Here, someone left a TV on the curb. It was a 40-inch rear-projection TV (one of those with 3 CRTs). It stayed there for over a week before the trash truck got it.

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Mark Lloyd

I'm surprised a trash vehicle would pick that up.

For the city to take something now, you have to gift wrap it and tie a big red bow around it.

To dispose of a refrigerator now, that would cost you a hundred bucks. Plus the gift wrap and the bow.

Paul

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Paul

Maybe someone pitched it because of all the issues you noted with it. Other than high end business laserjets pretty much ANY HP printer is either a crapshoot or a pile of crap. I gave up on selling them over 10 years ago - Lexmark and Canon were a lot les trouble for the money. Brother too over the last 10 or so years (their inkjets USED to be very troublesome if not used several times a week)

Reply to
Clare Snyder

With the low price of printers and the high price of ink you'd be SURPRISED how many people just throw awaythe printer when it runs out of ink - not realizing that the replacementcartridge has at least twice as much, and in some cases over 5 times as much ink as the "starter cartridge" that comes with the printer.

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Clare Snyder

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I wouldn't put much importance on the time zone. Some users never figure out how to or care enough to set such things. I have a step-brother who has been asking me why his Windows XT laptop doesn't seem to work as well as it used to and why he can't get software to install. I gave up trying to explain and offered him one of mine -- at least that one has W10 Home on it and a processor with more than one core.

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John McGaw

It's still confusing. It didn't work until I restarted windows, which it did not say to do.

And even though everything works now, I think, hpinkins still says "Your installation is not complete" and refers me to the CD, which I don't have, or to Support. It links there but doesn't say or link to whatever it thinks I should install.

And a box came out on the lower right that said I was no longer connected to scan, even though I scanned with no trouble a few seconds later. Of course this software is 12 years old. Maybe they've gotten rid of these bugs.

OTOH, good things, it displayed the scanned image in miniature and let me adjust the the brightness and contrast before saving it. I increased the contrast and it looked much better. The Brother and Epson didn't have this.

It already had black ink in it that works, but I'm out of color according to the monitor. I came across an unopened package of NCR Universal Color Inkjet Refill Kit that someone gave me 10 years ago!!! I forget who, or maybe I bought it at a hamfest. Yes, I think that's it. It still has a little label, $5, and initials, that showed who he was selling it for. It's still liquid and each container is full. I wonder if it will work? Again, I have almost nothing to lose. Pretty good packaging, at least. Maybe the ink is good too. (Still for sale, $23 for color, 20 for black, only on ebay, probably as old as mine.)

It says it has 2-sided printing also. I wish I had something that neeeded printing.

Right. It works with win10. The manual is copyright 2012. So it's doing pretty well for 9 years old. It's worth keeping for the scanning alone.

Reply to
micky

It just depends on where you live and the rules there. They will take anything you can lug to the curb here. If two guys can't get it in the regular truck they tag it and send a claw truck. That compactor will make splinters out of an old projection TV.

Reply to
gfretwell

With the ink you have to know if it is dye or pigment and whether it is oil or water soluable. DO NOT MIX dye and pigment or oil and water.

Reply to
Clare Snyder

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