Some people say that Obamacare has helped a lot of people get health
insurance, and other people say it's all a sham. I don't know what to
think about it.
I spent many hours with a family member in an ER waiting room Monday
night and all I saw was a it filled with people waiting for hours and
hours to get medical attention. The staff told us it was people who
couldn't afford to go to the Dr's office OR Obamacare, so they'd wait
until their health issues were desperate and critical and go to the ER.
We even saw people there who didn't look desperately ill, but looked
more like they showed up to get a check-up.
Something is so very wrong with Obamacare.
Well, let's see...
1. Pass a law forcing people to buy insurance whether ot not they need/want
it. Fine them if they don't.
2. If they can't afford to buy it, subsidize it.
3. Pay at least partially for the subsidy by taking it from social secutity,
an entitlement for which the recipients paid.
Is there anything good there?
On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 9:40:14 AM UTC-4, dadiOH wrote:
I'd say having a requirement that you have health insurance is the
only part that's good. I know most conservatives think otherwise,
but that's because they only are thinking about it as an emotional,
knee-jerk reaction rather than logically. Logically, it's consistent
with conservative values.
The Democrats promote big government.
The Republicans promote big business.
Things they agree on end up giving us new laws such as new cars are REQUIRED to have buck up cameras.
Nobody is looking out for us.
I like the rear view cameras too, but the government has no business making them mandatory. Same as thou shall not buy and
100 watt incandescent bulbs or you can't have any soft drink in NYC bigger than xx ounces (that didn't last long) or you can
keep your doctor... and many other examples where the government has no business sticking there nose in our lives.
Are you telling us that obama and the Democrats were incapable of creating the healthcare utopia they claimed they did?
Do you realize what party controlled the House of Representatives, the Senate and the White House when obamacare was shoved
down our throats? It was the party you blindly vote for.
They got exactly what they wanted; a bloated, expensive, government controlled failure that is proven by what Muggles and
thousands of others witness every day in emergency rooms across our country.
Get your head out of your ass.
You know damn well that bob, or any other lefty for that matter, won't honestly answer any question that contradicts what
they are told to believe. Many of them are incapable of free thought. bob is a prime example of that.
Do you mean they aren't being triaged and treated according to the care
How did you gather your facts? I don't like Obamascare because I pay for
other care through my insurance, through my taxes and through support by
I served my country and am glad to have the VA health care option . For
some reason , we here in Arkansas don't seem to have the problems with the
VA that other (liberal-controlled) parts of the country have .
Along with others here-thank you for your service.
Because like every other organization; gov't or private, it depends on
LEADERSHIP. You area has a good leader, they probably know how to work
around problems from above. Think of your service time, you could tell the
jackholes from the good ones-same thing. I tend to agree that the libs tend
to have the bunker mentality of hiding or passing the blame.
Don't get me started on the VA response to incompetence...
I'm really not sure because we were there for 3 hours waiting, but it
seemed other people had been waiting longer than us and still hadn't
been seen, yet. Maybe their illness wasn't as high up on the triage list
I didn't think much about until the medical staff talked about the load
of patients in the ER. They mentioned to us the thing about Obamacare
and how people couldn't afford to pay for it, so they'd wait until they
had no other choice but to go to the ER vs. using Obamacare to have
regular Dr.'s visits.
On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 11:26:31 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
The Affordable Healthcare Act(aka "Obamacare")
was drafted mostly before Obama's first
administration. Obama's involvement with it
was largely symbolic. I.E. putting his
signature on it, making it law.
It's primary beneficiary is the LARGEST PRIVATE
HEALTH INSURANCE INDUSTRY on God's Earth: that
of the United States. Repeat: NO NATION ON
EARTH possesses a private health insurance
industry as large, in terms of dollars and the
number of insurers, as that in America.
Replace it with a tax-based single-payer system
(a la England, France, Canada, etc.), and
MILLIONS of people with be without jobs. In
other words, the private health insurance
business would collapse. To complete the circle,
THIS is the reason for the Affordable Care Act
in the first place: to both insure as many people
in America as possible, and to keep the private
health insurers in business.
It "forces" you to buy insurance from those
corporations, with the condition that they can
not deny coverage as readily or as often as in
the days when health insurance was optional(if
you could afford it you bought it). If you don't
buy health insurance under the present system,
there is an escalating penalty(tax!) levied
Hopefully the U.S. will wake up one day and go
single-payer, like a lot of the rest of the
Western world already has.
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