On Topic: stripped Moen show cartridge screw

Oct 03, 2022 Last reply: 3 years ago 13 Replies

Hi All,



I had one of those oh poop moments.



I need to change out the shield behind my shower valve.



The valve is a Moen 1225

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When I went to remove the screw inside the knob, the blankidy blank screw stripped out.



It is the process show on this video between 1:18 to 1:28

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AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!



What next?


-T


My big concern was the screw threads must me extremely calcified and frozen in the cartridge. Any easy out solution would still have a frozen screw to contend with.

I can't use WD 40 due to allergies to it in the family. I have found that mineral oil, given a day to soak in, works as well as WD40.

But how to get past the knob and screw head to apply it?

I am thinking I have to

1) shut the water off to the house

2) cut the knob off

3) change the cartridge with the frozen screw in it. The cartridge is over 30 years old, so it is probably time anyway.

Any suggestions on how to cut the knob off?

Maybe put a grinder on my drill and grind the screw head off?

I must be missing something here < ? >

The screw just holds the knob on. The cartridges are free lifetime. Replace the cartridge. Replace the screw. John T.

What you missed was that I have to get the screw out first to get the knob off so I can replace the shield and/or the cartridge.

The screw stripped on me, meaning it is frozen in cartridge.

I'd probably try a small hole saw - just big enough to go around the screw head. < it seems like you'll be replacing the knob anyway >

John T.

I though of one of these to grind the head off:

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Seems I do have to replace the knob after all that grinding.

And if the screw still won't come out, replace the cartridge too. The cartridge is probably 30 years old, so I it seems a good idea to replace it too.

Your thoughts?

The screw is stainless steel - tough stuff. The knob is plastic. I'd cut the knob with a little hole saw ... John T.

Maybe one of those drummels would mess up the knob around the screw.

I hate to do it for jobs that should be easy to do but I have called the plumber for Moen cartridges in tub and shower where there are no shut off valves and I need to turn off all the water.

Given the replaceable nature of the handle, that sounds like the best idea, but in other situations where you can't get a screw out, I suggest left-handed drill bits. Surprisingly, the only low prices set of 4 last I looked, years ago, was at Harbor Freight, although there is one name brand that sells the bits one at a time. Sometimes even the smallest one is not small enough, but when one fits, while drilling the head out, sometimes the whole screw comes out.

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I've had good luck with Grabit. Is your drill motor reversible? It's easier that extractors.

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