Fellow space freaks and other technology buffs might enjoy a visit to
to see how many practical applications, including those for house and other repairs have come out of the space program and keep coming.
I get the NASA feed by email, so keep up on space news, practical and just thrilling.
Space program is not just waste of money. Many trickle down
technology(industry). My high school buddy has a patent on special
electrical cables which don't break or crack in extreme temperatures.
He is one of designated supplier by NASA.
Do either of you actually know the story about that failure ? I do , I
worked on that booster system , in several capacities . A good friend was
still employed there <I had already moved to Tn.> and I got the real skinny
the day after the crash . And yes , a chilled o-ring caused the failure ,
but Floriduh just doesn't get that cold - unless there's a liquid hydrogen
line leak spraying .
Back story to the whole episode is that the Thiokol engineers told 'em not
to launch , politics overruled and people died . Pretty much like
politicians everywhere . It's easy to spill blood when it ain't your own .
On Tuesday, April 29, 2014 7:14:59 PM UTC-7, Snag's Shop wrote:
I will NEVER forget watching on TV as the late, much-lamented Richard Feynm
an -- one of the authentic geniuses of this or any era -- did his thing wit
h the glass of ice water and the O-rings immersed therein. While all the s
tuffed shirts who had been dicking around for weeks in the so-called "inves
tigation" looked on, Feynman said -- masterpiece of understatement - I almo
st remember the exact words, modestly spoken: "I think this may have some
relevance to our investigation.."
He had gotten up early in the morning and found a hardware ? store open to
buy the needed supplies for his demonstration.
Whatta guy! They still tell tales at Caltech about how somebody would put
a problem on the board; the other physicists would be going through the rou
tine steps; Feynmna would just stand there. Suddenly he would write the co
rrect answer on the board while the others were still plowing through their
steps. If I were a religious person, I'd say he was in touch with the "di
vine". Whatever...things just came to him via a different path...
IMO everything he's done is part of his agenda to destroy the USA . And
there is no media outrage because they're part of it though there are signs
that some are awakening to what is really going on . I just hope it doesn't
come to armed conflict before it's all over ... but I'm afraid it may come
to that .
Obummer will *never* match the man that did the most REAL damage to America
since the Hoover era.
Let's see, the worst terrorist attack on US soil ever occurred on his watch.
The biggest financial collapse since the Great Depression occurred on his watch.
The worst natural disaster response ever (Katrina) occurred on his watch.
The biggest lie ever told (Saddam has WMD's) got us into two wars that nearly
bankrupted us was told on his watch by his Secretary of State.
The United States was turned into a police state that spied on the phone calls
and internet activities of ALL Americans on his watch.
The United States began its drone program to kill US citizens merely *suspected*
of terrorist connections with no court supervision under his watch.
The United States came up with legal justifications to torture people and try
them in secret courts and imprison them in secret prisons under his watch.
Funny, the Founding Fathers wanted to make sure we never engaged in the secret
"Star Chamber" courts of England and he almost single-handedly brought the Star
Chamber back on his watch.
Can you name the President that did the most damage to America in the last 60
years? Hint. It *wasn't* Obummer. Obummer's the man that got stuck cleaning
up this man mess.
On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:44:02 AM UTC-4, Spork wrote:
He has a very odd way of cleaning it up. You cite drones for example, and blame Bush for that.
Yet Obama has greatly accelerated the use of drones, which BTW, I and most Americans agree with. Just last week, we took out 55 terrorists
that were training in Yemen.
As for the economy, perhaps you;d like to cite
what Bush specifically did that caused the mortgage collapse. The factors that caused it
were spread across a whole lot of bad actions
going back decades. Just one example is giving
speculation in housing tax breaks, while requiring wage earners to pay rates double that
are double. And if Obama has fixed it, why is
the economy still struggling and going no where
5 years after the recession ended?
You blsme Bush for turning the US into a police
state with phone surveliance, yet not only didn't
Obama end it, he greatly increased it. It seems Obama
only wants to stand up to Republicans in Congress.
Anything else he has control over, could take direct
action, foreign policy, he just hides.
And finally, there were no lies over WMDs. The best
intelligence at the time from the US, Britain, Israel, and UN
indicated that Saddam still had WMD and WMD programs.
It was never up to the US to prove what Saddam had or didn't
have. Intelligence is not perfect. Do we know today exactly
what Korea, Iran or Russia is really doing? It was the other
way around. Under the agreement that ended Saddam's rape of
Kuwait and his totaly defeat by the allies, Iraq agreed to fully
cooperate with the UN weapons inspectors, to fully disclose all
their WMDs, programs, allow free interviews with any scientists,
managers, govt officials involved, etc. For a decade, Iraq failed
to cooperate. On the eve of Operation Iraqi Freedom, with 400,000
coalition forces on the border, Iraq still would not comply. Hans
Blix, no friend of the USA, said so in his final report to the UN.
If Bush failed to act and later used WMDS, you'd be the first one
to be here bitching and calling for Bush's impeachment. I can see it
not. "Hillary, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy.... an endless list of Democrats
said Iraq had WMDs and they were a threat to the world" Bush is an
idiot because he failed to act and should be impeached.
Nice to be a Monday morning quarterback. BTW, where is your similar
outrage over what's gone on in the Obama administration. Let's just
take one example, the IRS. What went on there is a direct assault on
Americans constitutional rights by the most feared of govt agencies.
You have Lerner taking the fifth before Congress, the IRS stonewalling
in turning over documents to Congress. It's almost a year later, and
we still know almost nothing about what went on. It's the closest govt
scandal to Watergate. Where exactly is your outrage about that?
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