I would hope so. I'd not buy one because of the "great unknown" of
batteries and the cost. I tend to keep cars for a long time so that is a
factor for me. I'm also betting that fuel cells, batteries, hydrogen, or
something will be readily available in mass production (at reasonable cost)
in a few more years.
They do make fuel efficient cars, but few buy them. This problem isn't
Detriot's or even Washington's, it is our problem. If you want to see
the cause of high fuel prices and shortages, just look in the mirror.
Depends what you mean by fuel efficient. Hear these loose terms all over
Believe its the people going solo to/from work in their big V8, high weight
SUVs waiting in stop n' go traffic with the AC going full blast that are
consuming most of the gasoline per person per mile. All the gas saved by
the less cylinders used in the latest Hemi, is killed by one foot stomp on
the gas pedal. All of this is appropriate for the look in the mirror
remark. Both for vehicle demand type from Detroit and fuel consumption.
My trip home takes 45 minutes... 20 minutes going 3 miles through town,
and 25 minutes going ~20 miles on the highway. I've often said that if I
could eliminate the stopping, I'd get much better gas mileage.
I want a car that gets 100+ mpg, but I don't know of anyone that makes
Old computers are getting to be a lost art. Here at Uncreative Labs, we
These Hybrids are not what I call fuel efficient. Yes, they are better
than standard cars but they could be better. Besides, they cost too
much for what you get. Auto makers have had years and years to get it
right but have choosen not to be innovative and we're still driving cars
around that have the same gas mileage as 30 years ago.
Fair enough - I agree that if efficiency had been a serious objective
then we'd see better results today.
However, the greatest improvements in fuel consumption, in the short to
medium term, would be changes in driver behavior. Buying a gas guzzler
and driving like an idiot or driving unnecessarily are behaviors that
can be changed with _huge_ reductions in consumption. You don't need a
6000lb, 300hp behemoth to go pick up a quart of milk.
Not so much so if there weren't all the big SUVs bullying them around by
sheer weight and size, and you all would slow the "f" down to make things
safer collision-wise on the faster roads.
Small cars were never cool. They just made sense until the behemoths were
built again. Now everyone needs a behemoth for some sense of survivability.
And it all goes back to the same thing, look in the mirror. Not behind you,
at yourself. And even if you do, you'll still do the same BS until you're
forced to do so. No conscience, self only, feed the system.
I drive a large pickup truck because I am a general contractor
and I may need to haul, tow, etc. on a daily basis. Due to
the gas prices, I have often been riding my motorcycle to
work, only to discover that I need to move some tools to
another jobsite. I then drive all the way home to get my
truck and return to the jobsite (which may be 2-30 miles from
I have found one silver lining in this gas price surge. 35
years ago, cowboys, ranchers and construction workers drove
trucks. They were fairly reasonable back then. No frills,
but you could get a good truck without taking out a second
mortgage on the house. Since everyone and their mother wants
trucks and SUVs now, the price of those vehicles have
skyrocketed. Typical construction workers can barely afford
to buy what they NEED to do their job.
Now that gas prices are shooting up, the demand will go down
and perhaps those of us who NEED those types of vehicles will
be able to afford them. I am constantly looking at trucks and
the first sign that demand was going down was the Chevy
employee discount on trucks. I am hoping that that trend
continues and that prices get back to reasonable levels.
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 15:13:07 +0000, Robert Allison wrote:
You can still buy "work trucks". They may not be sitting on the showroom
floor, but they can be ordered. OTOH, I see them all the time in the
Boston and NYC papers as bait.
Do you NEED fancy interriors? Power windows/locks? AC? 4WD? Work
trucks are available for about 60% of what the weekend-warrior pays for a
car replacement. Though when my son grew up and I no longer needed two
"cars" (or minivans) I bought a small pickup. As a weekend warrior myself,
I like to be able to fetch a sheet of plywood (or snowblower ;), or take
stuff to the dump. I also like some of the creature comforts of a car.
Last time we bought one for our shop it was difficult to find one. No
dealer had one, few were even interesting in ordering a low profit model but
one did when he realized it was that or nothing. It has no AC, standard
trans, no options at all, but does haul what we need and only put on 5,000
miles a year. Most trips are about a mile so we don't need the fancy
options that our cars have.
I bought one. All of my trucks are "work trucks". That is
what I buy them for.
Yes, I need AC and 4WD. I live in Texas. I spend about 40%
of my time in the truck going from job to job, estimate to
estimate, etc. I have to pull trailers with backhoes,
bobcats, materials, etc. I have a Chevy 2500 HD that is just
barely enough to handle what I need it to do. I don't care if
it gets scratched or dented, but I do care that the AC works.
At least until winter gets here in January. May have a few
days that I can run without it then.
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