My computer is telling the correct hourly time. Is it because the new
rules for changing our clocks happened to give the same day as if we
followed the old rules? Or, did one of the Microsoft Windows XP
updates put some new intelligence into my machine?
On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 11:08:27 -0800 (PST), "hr(bob) firstname.lastname@example.org"
Do you have Intenet? If so, double click on the Time in the lower
right corner, and then click on the Internet Time tab. Do you have
the box checked? If so, that does it. Yes, it's built in to XP for
years now, from the beginning I thought, but wasn't in winME or 98,
though there was freeware etc. that would do it with those OSes.
I have a Philips DVDR, now sold under the Magnavox brand, which does
a very nice job in many ways but the clock can lose a minute or two a
week, and so can the one my friend bought. Putting it on automatic
time set doesn't make things better. But last night and last
spring, it automatically updated the hour**, but failed to accurately
set the minute! Isn't that amazing?
**When using an antenna only and not cable, etc. it does that by
getting the time off of a tv station, usually PBS,
Thanks to everyone for confirming what I suspected. The minute
differs from the minute on my cellphone by about 10 seconds, that is
truly amazing. I go back to when a long distance phone call meant
shouting at top volume and then not always being able to hear the
person at the other end , very late 1940's and very early 1950's.
On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 13:20:30 -0800 (PST), "hr(bob) email@example.com"
I'm a few years younger than you, but I rememmber early and mid 50's
when station-to-statioin was 20 cents a minute, after 8PM and on
weekends,, and we all gathered around the phone to listen/talk to my
grandmother, so she didn't have to say the same thing twice.
While NYC had dial phones then, until about 1955, we'd pick up the
phone and the operator would say Number pleasssse. We'd give her the
number** and I think we heard a ringing sound, unless it was busy, in
which case the operator would come back and say "The line is bussssy".
**For the first few weeks or months in 1945, my mother would say
"OLiver 4-1234, please", but eventually an operator said, "You don't
have to say OLiver 4, Ma'am. They're all OLiver 4. "
In '57 we moved to the INdianapolis suburbs. When my mother signed up
for a phone, she was told she could have a party line with no one else
on it. I guess they had planned for when there were more people in
the area. So she saved money and it was like a private line for 9
years. till we moved.
Talk about technology. I just picked up my old fashioned tone dial handset,
by tapping on the hangup button on the wall, I called my cell phone. Is
I like the old phone, works without external power, and has loud bell. Also
got loud bell in garage.
Also realize that your computer has TWO clocks in it, the RTC (real time
clock) which is like a wristwatch and uses a wristwatch type battery. The
computer gets its time from this when you first turn it on.
But after it is on, the computer gets its time from the CPU. This second
clock can run erratically, depending on how much load your computer is
running. On this computer I'm using now, the clock runs fast when the
computer is on. Windows normally automatically updates the clock once a
week with the NIST.
Well, if I let my computer go a week it would be fast by about 2 to 3
minutes. So, I wrote a little script for the registry that changes the time
update to every 6 hours. So, my computer is usually within half a second of
accurate with the NIST at any given time.
Usual thing when you set the clock setting with DST enabled.
Most of clocks in my house is atomic time based. My utility watch
(Casjo Wave Center with solar cell) all know DST time setting back
and forth. Our home thermostat does the same.
Living in Indiana where is has only be the last few years where we
started with Daylight time, for most computers the DST changeover is
automatic. Remember when we started using DST one of the OS updates said
that one the included changes was Indiana now observing DST. I was so
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late
to work within the system, but too early to shoot
LOL. Indiana used to be in the Central time zone, in the early 50's
and earlier, and they, or some of them, worked for years and years to
get into the Eastern. Giving up DST was part of that, because it
put them on the same time as Eastern for half of the year.
I see ads for clocks that claim to set themselves. They don't really,
but will adapt to DST (change hour twice a year). Of course, they won't
do anything about clock drift, so you still need to check occaisionally.
51 days until the winter celebration (Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:00:00 AM).
There are so-called "atomic clocks" that do set themselves using a
signal from a satellite. I have a small one that I got very cheaply
at a hamfest, and after a year, I still haven't noticed if it works
right or not, though it seems to keep good time. This morning it
was no longer on DST. The problem is that when it is updating the
time, it is supposed to display the image of radiation semi-circles
coming from the image of an antenna, and when it does that, it stays
that way for hours, when I can't imagine it takes more than ???
minutes to update the time.
They aren't really atomic, but the clock whose time they receive is
probably atomic. Little known, the one at the US Naval Observatory
in DC is open for tours one weeknight a week. iirc, along with being
allowed to look through the telescope and one other thing I forget. I
was there when Dan Quayle was living on the same property, and I hope
the tours are still given.
The telescope will only see rather bright things, because it's located
in the middle of NW DC, but there is also the U of Maryland telescope
near College Park which is open for tours one day a month iirc, and
the day of the week varies. Maybe it's the same day of each month.
With their 2 telescopes, I was able to see Saturn and its rings for
the first time (incredible) and two other planets and probably some
stars IIRC both tours are free, though you should make a
reservation and each is worth driving from Baltimore, let alone
closer. At least on a clear night.
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