I agree and the driver was foolish to taunt them but probably wanted to
get a video of them overreacting.
OTOH checkpoint thing is probably not needed. I've seen drunks driving
at night and they are easy to spot without check points.
Well, that's probably because they knew he understood his rights and
was invoking them. A lot of people have no idea that cops can legally
lie to you. A lot of people have no idea what their individual rights
actually are when encountering them. This sometimes results in
convictions that wouldn't have otherwise occured. Know your rights!
Make yourself sheep and the wolves will eat you.
What is wrong with your country? The police don't have power to ask you to get out of your car, or to get you to answer questions, or to test you for being drunk? So I can drive around drunk and just tell them to get lost?
How many potheads does it take to change a light bulb?
Two. One to hold the bulb against the socket, and the other to smoke up until the room starts spinning.
Followed up by your pension when my lawyers are done playing with you.
It's very clear that your comfortable being a sheep. I wouldn't ever
want to try and change your line of thinking. Sheep can be useful too.
Make yourself sheep and the wolves will eat you.
Though a few times I got just a warning for being polite, there is one
time something different happened:
I got a speeding ticket in a small town...it was obviously a trap and a
way for the community to make money...but I was very polite.
The fine was so small I was not worried about it but he told me to take
it to court and they would "so something" for me. When I realized that a
speeding ticket could make my car insurance go up I figured it would be
a good idea to go to their court.
I did not have to say a word, the magistrate simply asked if I wanted
the ticket changed to a non-moving violation of the same dollar value fine.
I took that option and paid the $90 and my insurance was not effected.
Only thing is my records now say that I vandalized a street sign!
Sure, when you have committed an infraction, it is best to be polite.
In the case that OP posted however, the individual had broken no laws,
but was still stopped and questioned by law enforcement; that is a
different animal altogether.
If he'd cooperated he'd have been out of there much quicker. The poor
folks stopped behind him would have been out of there much quicker. And
the officers checking him could have been using that wasted time
checking other people for DUI. Cooperating with police when they are
legitimately doing their job even though you don't have to is IMO a good
thing. YMMV. When that guy does get whacked by a drunk driver someday he
undoubtedly will be complaining about lack of police enforcement. Never
How is it his fault? HE didn't put up the check point, HE didn't stop
the police, HE didn't almost kill the cops, etc.
Yes, I know about cops. Was harrased by 'em when I was only 16 and
many times since then. I usta brag on my record of being pulled over
11 times in 2 yrs and never once being cited. It was all plain ol'
harrassment. I've been self rightous enough about my situation up to the point
where I told off the cop off and got away with it (cuz I was right and
the cop was dead wrong!).
I've even beat the cops in court. Why? Cuz they were either liars or
too stupid to know what they were citing me for. I loved that the
judge gave a pre-court speech claiming "everyone is innocent until
proven guilty, then, when I beat the case cuz the cops filled out the
ticket incorrectly, the judge admonished me with a parting shot, "I
know you did something wrong". Apparently, that "innocent until
proven guilty" myth is highly subject to a judge's whims. ;)
On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 12:23:32 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
Why are you talking about killing cops in response to a statement about
some dick wasting people's time?
The "time wasting" is his fault because a simple DUI check takes less than
a minute, maybe 2. He spent ~6 minutes being a dick, getting more than one
officer involved and holding up anyone that was behind him.
Under the law, you were innocent. That doesn't mean you didn't do something
wrong. The judge didn't say you were *guilty*, he said you did something wrong. Based on your description of the situation ("I beat the case cuz the
cops filled out the ticket incorrectly") he was absolutely right.
My daughter did something wrong but was not found guilty because the cop
took a vacation day on her court day. Under the law she was "innocent" but
I still took the keys away because she did "something wrong". Even as an
18 YO she knew the difference.
But you still were sentenced to a day in court weren't you. Didn't you
just love wasting all that time? (While the cop got paid to take a break
from the street and relax.)
So the ticket was good then. You just beat it on a technicality. You
could have saved yourself a lot of time and grief by just obeying the
law. Or at least by being a little more polite to the officer when stopped.
But judging from your posting style that's not likely so please enjoy
your many upcoming court dates... ;)
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