Good on you, Depending on the emergency (hurricanes and tornados come to
mind) and the nature of the damage the utility will cut the supply on orders
from FEMA, the fire department, the state or city.
BTW I have an interest in a company that supplies emergency gen sets to the
oil patch and cell phone companies. Back up and redundancy is the name of
the game if you want to keep the lights.
Might add that NOLA used NG as back up for their emergency communications
system. That was BEFORE Katrina. The practice was to put gen sets in the
basement as well and everyone know how well that worked.
As for me and mine we have duel and in some cases tri-fuel options.
Equipment is mounted well above the 500 year flood line. In Okla. and N
Texas we have the equipment and fuel in safe rooms.
On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:14:55 PM UTC-4, NotMe wrote:
And if it gets that bad, a generator isn't likely to matter anyway.
Here in NJ, during Sandy, nat gas was cut off to some shore areas
that were the hardest hit, totally flooded, wrecked, etc. But residents
were forced to evacuate and not allowed in those areas for weeks to months either. So if it gets that bad, it isn't too likely that a generator is going
to do you any good regardless of what it's fueled with. In 50 years
of various outages, I've never had nat gas go out. During Sandy, I
was without electricity for a week, but had nat gas the whole time.
You have to so some reasonable analysis of likely scenarios. And I
think in many cases, nat gas is about the best solution there is.
On Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:15:10 PM UTC-4, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
It sure did. And in every case where that happened that I heard of
here, the area was under mandatory evacuation. People were not allowed
to return, re-occupy homes, etc for weeks to months. So, losing nat
gas that way shouldn't deter someone from relying on it for the more
typical generator scenarios. No backup scheme is perfect, but IMO
using nat gas is about the best scenario out there for most people who
have it available. In 35+ years of experience, I've never had nat gas
go out during a power outage. It hasn't gone out at all, except I think
one time when the gas company was doing work and notified everyone of
an interruption for a few hours.
trader_4 posted for all of us...
And I know how to SNIP
This is probably the best thought on this. Nat gas if you can get it,
propane if not.
The school district where I used to work had a deal with the Nat gas
supplier for a better rate if they could cut it off during peak demands.
Which they did!
The nat gas supplier to my area wants a $1 a foot to lay pipeline from the
closest source. Ouch. If I was younger and had money I would go propane and
a genset in a heartbeat. I am old and cranky and outages bother me more and
On Friday, May 30, 2014 8:16:13 PM UTC-4, Tekkie® wrote:
$1 a foot sounds like a great deal to me. If you're using oil for example,
even if you paid for 1000ft install, it would only be $1000. Any place
where significant winter heating is involved, you could recover that cost
savings in fuel, servicing, etc in just a few years. My nat gas usage
over the winter for heating was $630. I'd bet oil would easily be 50%+
more. In 3 years, you'd have the cost of a 1000 ft run covered.
I think I am going to cost out running nat gas out to the gennie and
then compare that to the cost of propane.
I'm thinking 10 days absolute worst case for an outage around here.
My suspicion is that I'll be able to buy enough propane to operate two
or three times that period for less than what running nat gas out to the
gennie will cost - but I want to get down to dollars and cents before I
make a choice.
``On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 6:57:58 PM UTC-4, Tekkie® wrote:
I was comparing heating bills with a friend last night who has oil.
My guess that oil was at least 50% higher was way off. He said he's
paying $500 a month in winter and his house is smaller, but old and
not as well insulated. I just looked at the EPA estimates for the cost
of heating by various methods, based on Q413 energy prices. Oil is
2.7 X the cost of nat gas!
And propane is just as much as oil.
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