Consider dual climate control systems. Do you think there are two heater cores and two evaporators in those cars? (I'm not talking long vans and such that have front and rear air and heat) No, the air flow is controlled by doors directing airflow, not hot water control of refrigerant control. Just because you are stuck in the past doesn't help you.
You remind me of all the idiots that think reading books equate to knowledge. You really should take the words of those with hands on knowledge above what you *think* you know.
And as far as refilling the cooling system, some have two vents that need to be opened to prevent vapor locking when refilling.
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trader_4
Then why are you here, bitching at me? That was the issue being debated. Clare made the claim that most cars no longer use them, between him and Vic, they were making the case that it's old, went out years ago.
Clare has made an ass of himself here many times over the years. And he remains ignorant, because anyone that shows him the facts, he puts them in his kill file.
You can believe whatever you please. I provided you with links that show most, maybe all, modern BMWs use heater valves and that the Honda Accord, a very popular car uses them today too. What data other than his flapping gums has he given you?
As I've said, it was my lifelong business until
And you don't know yourself how many cars use them? WTF?
You're so full of s*it. Clare made the claim. I challenged it and I backed it up with facts, links, that show BMW uses heater valves, Honda too. Ed provided data too. Who else does or doesn't IDK, but it's enough to show that Clare is wrong, that they are not a relic. And I didn't shift the discussion. BTW, where are your links, genius?
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clare
Trader's knowlege of anything deeper than his navel is sadly lacking.
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RonNNN
So... you've shone that a few cars still use heater control valves. Have I ever said different? How does that have anything to do with whether a heater core will leak (more or less according to you)? Sheesh! You are one thick headed person. Go all the way back up there^ to see my one word post saying "wrong" about heater cores not leaking if the flow was stopped. Drift off the subject if it makes you feel better, but know it makes you look stupid at the same time.
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RonNNN
I'm trying to stay out of automotive topics since I retired, but sometimes I just can't help but chime in, especially on something as stupid as this thread has become. Common sense can not be found in books.
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trader_4
No s*it head, I showed you that most, probably all BMW models do and the Honda Accord, just one very popular model. That's not a few cars, that's a lot of cars. And again, why the attack on me for showing the data? I should just let Clare's statement go unchallenged? Is he a god to you or something? He's made an ass of himself a hundred times here and unlike me, he refuses to correct a mistake. I correct mine.
How does that have anything to do with whether a
Did you just fall off the turnip truck? Threads evolve and this one didn't evolve all that much. Discussing heater valves in a thread about leaking heater cores, you find that unusual? Really? That's my bad too? Because Clare made the claim and I'm discussing it?
You are
Yeah, right. When I first incorrectly said that with the heater valve closed you won't get a leak from a bad heater core, how long did it take me to correct that? Very next post, I corrected it. But I'm the thick headed one? Go figure. That moron Clare, he NEVER corrects anything. You sound about the same. Ed and I presented the data, links, showing heater valve parts for many cars today.
Go all the way back up there^ to see my one word
Go f*ck yourself already. I acknowledged that in the very next post, corrected it, something few here do. That has nothing to do with what followed, Clare made another claim and we were then discussing that. Who appointed you to decide what's appropriate to discuss and what's not? And a heater valve is so far removed? You're amazing.
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makolber
utside and the car interior is set to 70? Must be a unique car.
w. But you're right, the return line is still open and going back to the c oolant loop, so it will leak. Probably not as much, but it would leak unles s it's some unusual design that cuts off both paths.
+2 the heater core is still under pressure even with no flow m
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clare
Except in the VERY RARE application that uses a 4 hose shut off valve
---. They do exist, but I can't tell you what they were used on.
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gfretwell
"Not if it was an African swallow" This thread has moved beyond silly.
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micky
I wish I could have found an inspector like that. Would have made my life easier. One year when I was living in NYC more than Pa. I had my car inspected in NYS, had Pensyslvania plates, and paid car insurance at a NY address (because I wasn't trying to cheat the insurance company.) The NY inspection made no sense, but I never got a ticket.
LOL
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clare
On a Ghia convertible even WITH good tubes you could never get the cabin WARM. A gas heater was a good option in cold country.
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Tekkieî
Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us...
If the car uses blend doors (most likely these days) then coolant would flow all the time.
If the heater core fogs the window it MIGHT fail inspection. It could be an expensive fix...
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clare
a stop-leak cube is usually a CHEAP fix - it MIGHT not be permanent but it will get you through inspection.
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gfretwell
The question is whether it gets you through the winter.
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Ed Pawlowski
Two possibilities: It will give way and leak many times the original It will block the core passages so you get no heat on the coldest day of the year.
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clare
My last stopleak repair on a heater core lasted at least 7 years - -
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clare
I've NEVER had a quality stop-leap product plug a clear heater core. If you have one that is badly scaled to start with, all bets are off.
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