Goodbye 100w, 75w Incandescent Lamps

Do us all a favor and leave the United States of America. This country will be a much better place after you leave. You don't belong here. You'd do much better in a country such as Iraq. Don't let the door slam you in the ass as you leave.

Daryl

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daryldeni
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Idiot. That bill came from the Democrat-controlled *Congress*, not from the President.

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Idiot. Nixon the Republican *ended* that war, which Kennedy the Democrat started, and Johnson the Democrat escalated far out of control.

Reply to
Doug Miller

Explain it to me Lucy; hurry up, I have Bongo lessons.!

Reply to
Oren

A Conflict! And not a War.

Think, Gulf of Tonkin; regarding LBJ.

Reply to
Oren

The Democrat-controlled Congress that doesn't have enough votes to override a veto, thereby meaning NOTHING that comes out of that Congress becomes law without the President's agreement and signature? Is that the one you are talking about?

Reply to
Tim Smith

They _can_ make a decent car (I like my Saturn, for instance), but as long as there's more money in the behemoth vehicles, that's what they'll build.

Reply to
CJT

Huh? You think anarchy is preferable to reasonable regulation?

I might prefer to just dump my garbage on your lawn. Would that work for you?

Reply to
CJT

Wrong on all counts, Petey, but thanks for playing!

Where did I say to look at the nameplate, Petey?

So, you have made actual measurements on the two TV's I mentioned? I don't remember even giving you the model numbers, Petey. That makes you a SUPERGENIUS! Congratulations.

Reply to
salty

It's called the "Invisible Hand." When everyone acts in their own best interests, the overall good is magnified.

When everyone is compelled to act in what is presumed to be the best interest as determined by a few, we have disaster.

Reply to
HeyBub

My city, Houston, is retrofitting its traffic signals with LEDs. They cost more initially, but since the bulbs won't have to be replaced for, what, fifty years, they should recoup the expense fairly soon.

Can you imagine what it takes to change the bulb on an overhead traffic signal?

Reply to
HeyBub

Bah! The Romans cut down the forests of North Africa (and parts of Europe). When wood became expensive, Europe turned to coal. When the coal ran out, or became too expensive, the world began to run on oil.

When we run out of (cheap) oil, there'll be something else.

There are those who advocate turning the oil reserves of Saudia Arabia into a "planetary resource," to be administered for the good of everyone.

Reply to
HeyBub

  1. The "one square of toilet paper" idea is being promoted by Sheryl Crow, a Hollywood liberal.
  2. The TV re-allocation was established in 1997, during the Clinton administration.

Bush isn't trying to take away your guns. As Texas governor, he promoted the concealed carry law. As president, he did not promote the extension of the Assault Weapons Ban. Since the ban expired, you can now buy guns with cosmetic, scary-looking features, like bayonet lugs, and high-capacity magazines.

  1. The Bush administration is the least corrupt in recent history - only ONE administration person in eight years has been convicted of anything.
2.Kennedy and Johnson started and expanded the Viet Nam war. Nixon ENDED the fighting and Henry Kissinger got the Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts along those lines. After the last American troops left the country, the Democrat congress cut off funding for the South Vietnamese Army and, a year later, the South fell to the godless Communists from the North.

Be gentle. If anyone from the government comes to your house, they'll just be trying to help.

Reply to
HeyBub

That simply is not true though, as there is no part of Alaska that is "virtually off-limits to any resource harvesting". ANWR, for example, (and the parks on the Canadian side of the border also) was established to protect the resources required for several thousands of people whose very way of life and existence relies upon being able to harvest those resources.

Again, that is simply *not* true! In fact the environmentalists did complain loudly about the initial design for a pipeline. That design, fortunately, was never built. The process was held up until the legal status of land title was settled, and in the years (1968 to 1972) while that was happening the State of Alaska began studies on the North Slope to determine the potential impact of oil production. One of the more immediate determinations was that the claims from environmentalist about the pipeline design were valid.

By 1974 when construction began, the design had been modified to meet the requirements of both the environmentalists and the State of Alaska; as a result the pipeline has had relatively minimal environmental impact (note that is "minimal", not "non-existent").

Let's use our heads and not go off half cocked with c*ck-a-mamie ideas based on false information.

Reply to
Floyd L. Davidson

  1. The Democratic Congress passed the law.

Which he shared with Arafat, thus once and for all killing off ANY remaining legitimacy for the "Peace" Prize.

Reply to
Kurt Ullman

Several thousands of people need several millions of acres and can't spare a little land. All told, the ANWR consists of 19 million acres. Congress has put 8 million acres into formal wilderness status and designated 9.5 million acres as wildlife refuge. Those 17.5 million acres form a protected enclave almost as large as the state of South Carolina. As part of the original legislation, Congress set aside the remaining

1.5 million acres of the coastal plain for ***potential exploration*** and development because of its oil and gas. (emphasis mine). Before any exploration could occur, additional legislation had to be passed by Congress. That happened in 1995, but President Clinton vetoed the bill. It is a little hard to make the case that areas that were initially set-aside specifically for exploration could really have that much impact.

You should try it sometime.

Reply to
Kurt Ullman

You referenced looking up specifications "it's very easy to just look up the specifications for almost all consumer electronics" and the only specifications that you will be able to look up from the manufacturer would be the nameplate rating.

As I noted, I measured a 17" CRT monitor, nameplate 1.2A, actual running .4A.

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Pete C.

I doubt the 50 yr thing since I've see LED signals failing. The good thing is that they have a "soft" failure mode, losing a few strings of LEDs rather than the whole thing at once like the old incandescent signals. The power savings of the LED vs. the 300W incandescents they replace becomes significant when multiplied by all the active signals in a city.

About an hour, a bucket truck and a cop to handle traffic.

Reply to
Pete C.

just look

Wrong, Petey. The only specification YOU would be able to look up is the nameplate ratings.

A 17" CRT monitor is not a 27" CRT television, and it is also not a

40" LCD Television. Why don't you measure the current draw on your refrigerator and throw that into your nonsensical mix as well?

Oh, and, Kill-A-Watt? That's sold mostly for amateur do-it-yourselfers.

Reply to
salty

They've owned that land for thousands of years. What right do you have to take it, or their resources, and destroy their culture?

Do you have a point?

The coastal plain of ANWR (the 1002 Area) is the single such refuge in the Arctic. There is nothing else like it in the world.

Hence, we have wisely refrained from destroying it.

Note that Congress did *not* set it aside for exploration, potential or otherwise. Congress said that option should be studied because there was a potential. It has been studied, and rather obviously it has been consistently determined to *not* be a suitable option, which is why exploration has not passed into law.

That is an absurdly erroneous statement. As noted, it was *not* set aside for exploration. And logically there is no correlation between that and whether there would or would not be an impact.

As we know positively from the horrendous impact of oil production in the Prudhoe Bay industrial complex, there is no question at all that there is in fact that impact.

You did not even want to question the facts as I stated them, but went of with false statements and illogical philosophy.

Do you actually know *anything* about ANWR?

Reply to
Floyd L. Davidson

Oh, dear LORD!

Reply to
salty

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