Fun Facts, wired earbuds

Mar 09, 2021 Last reply: 5 years ago 23 Replies

Fun Facts



If you wind the cord from your earbuds into a circle, they always get tangled when you try to use them.



If you fold them over and over until they're short enough to put where you want them, they unfold with much less gangling than the method above. At least in my experience.


There must be some branch of science or math or industry that deals with stuff like this. Anyone know?


it's called knot theory.

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But between 46 centimetres and 150 centimetres (about five feet), the probability of a knot forming rises dramatically. With a cord longer than that, the probability of a knot forming reaches a plateau of 50 percent. ... "At least" because earbuds are, of course, a Y-shaped string, and thus the knotting frequency is compounded further. (Raymer and Smith didn't look at strings with more than one branch, but anecdotally I can confirm that the tangle-rate is pretty high.)
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not ergonomics.

it's called knot theory.

Am 09.03.21 um 22:15 schrieb micky:

Sure! The manufacturers of Bluetooth and Wifi headsets. This was easy ...

It is simple geometry, every loop you put in that cord is a twist. The only way around it would be to unroll it and not just pull it out.

go read the research paper before digging yourself a deeper hole.

... as long as you then unwind them and not just pull the coil over the end.

I can tell you from long experience as a racing sailor, if you want to ensure a halyard, sheet or other line runs free when you need it to, you toss it into a loose pile; only making sure that the bitter end isn't beneath the pile but rather off to the side.

Sure, we coiled lines for putting the boat away, but never when actually using them.

Demonstrating once again how little you understand.

How things tangle is definitely a part of "knot theory".

"Spontaneous knotting of an agitated string"

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And from that:

"We used mathematical knot theory to analyze the knots. Above a critical string length, the probability P of knotting at first increased sharply with length but then saturated below 100%"

yes it does and don't snip to alter context.

And here goes the circular argument again.

The subject was the tangling of earphone leads,

You were told the problem was not in the field of ergonomics, but knot theory, and shown a paper describing the tangling problem.

You declared that tangling isn't a not.

You declared the paper had nothing to do with knot theory.

You were shown it did....

...and now we're back at the top.

In what way are they not like cords?

You're lying...

...and you're not good at that either.

I just showed you the paper that declares it is.

You don't have the slightest clue what "knot theory" is in the first place.

false.

also false.

here's what i orig> > > Tangling isnt a knot.

Maybe you should "roadie wrap" the cord?

I think I know what a "roadie wrap" is...

...but what do you think it is?

:-)

Now this is the story all about how My life got flipped, turned upside down And I'd like to take a minute just sit right there I'll tell you how ...

Oh wait, you said Wrap... nvm

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