Fuel comparison charts

Sounds like a by product of government regulation.

A guy at work has one. It has not cost him a penny for the emissions related repairs, but they keep his trucks for days at a time trying to figure out the problems. He finally traded it for a gas model.

I think this stuff is just the only successful technology currently available that meets the EPA standards for diesels. It doesn't matter who the manufacturer is, all diesel trucks in the U.S. made after 2010 have the same stuff strapped on to them.

The same over here. Diesel fuel used to be cheap but now is more than petrol. And the cars cost more. The MPG is not that much different now except about town where diesels score better.

There isn't enough used cooking oil to make a dent in the amount of fuel burnt in diesel engines.

"Michael A. Terrell" on Fri, 28 Jun 2013

Biodeisel - used cooking oil, only skipping the food portion.

-- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

The cooking oil sounds good, except that I doubt that there is enough in an average town to power a tenth of a percent of the cars,

Biodiesel, though, makes more sense than using ethanol. It is much easier to produce not requiring fermentation or distillation and glycerine biproduct is more useful.

In the far South where temperatures stay above freezing, used cooking oil can be used directly. I heard Willie Nelson uses it in his tour bus. Extra benefit is cooking smell of exhaust masks the smell of pot.

Did not know if taxed differently but could be pure market forces. Higher prices in EC still might favor diesel. Guess it depends on how much you drive. Retired, myself, and not driving that much, I would not get a more expensive diesel or hybrid vehicle just to save money on fuel.

That was my point. OTOH, you could render enough fat from the shiftless slobs to power at least one percent. ;-)

True. "Bio-diesel" can be made form any oil or fat, even the stuff not edible.

So, if you smell fried chicken and lots of sage - it means there's a Willi Nelson concert nearby?

-- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

"Michael A. Terrell" on Fri, 28 Jun 2013

Hmm, there's a new "energy source".

-- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

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This new crap is even showing up on farm equipment and irrigation power units. It might make sense to limit emissions on city buses, but on farm equipment?

It MIGHT make sense to limit emissions on city buses?

Depends on the trade offs.

The U.S. government keeps increasing the fuel mileage standards, for example. Vehicles are being made lighter as a result. How many more people are killed or injured because of that? Suppose we had vehicles sturdily built like the ones from the 50s 60s with modern safety features?

Some of those were terrible in crash tests. They didn't fold right.

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Cool! Another Marie Curie!!