For all of you "second hand smoke" ninnies.

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ChairMan
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Ohm's law is a formula. As such I should be able to 'plug in' two values for two of the variables and obtain the third by using one of the other two equations.

You are now giving me V=0 and I=0 so now I should be able to determine what the resistance is. The formula (using algebra) can be manipulated to R=V/I for this purpose and then that equation solved for R. If I is zero, it doesn't work.

Ohm's Law works for 'voltage drop' because 'voltage drop' *requires* that there be (non-zero) current through a (non-zero) resistance. This is the original point which started this discussion.

Except by the *formula* for Ohm's law it can be stated that I and R are inversely proportional for any given V. So, as 'I' goes toward zero 'R' goes toward infinity. If 'I' *is* zero then 'R' *is* infinity and you are attempting to multiply zero by infinity to get a non-non-zero 'V'.

You just pulled an 'N' and a 'T' out of your hat, and what happened to 'X'? Oh, I see, it shrunk and became a little 'x'. Are you trying to come up with 3.141592 . . .?

Maybe you need an apple puree formula?

Of course, but you might have zero groups of 528 apples or zero groups of 498745 apples or zero groups any number of apples to get the same total number of apples. An equation makes no claims of the relationships between the values.

I thought 'N' was five.

Maybe you need a nap?

The number of apples per group and the number of groups of apples and the number of total apples in your example are not claiming to be a formula, so the relationships between them is not important.

If on the other hand you claim that the number of apples per group is inversely proportional to the number of groups of apples for any given number of total apples then yes, because it is a formula when the relationships are considered.

You're very rude to people here, so I thought you would like some competition. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.

I take it that, as I predicted, you didn't understand the additive group exponentiation explanation when it was presented. Did you even bother to look at the videos I so kindly provided to you?

The origin where 100=0/0, I have no need to graph it.

Indeed!

Reply to
FromTheRafters

Well then, lets put all smokers in internment camps and keep them away from the rest of society

Reply to
ChairMan

T4, quit beating your head against the wall, you are NOT going to change anyone mind like muggy,booby, or villian. KF 'em and it will help your BP immensely : ) It helped mine

Reply to
ChairMan

it's not just smokers, but you already knew that

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ChairMan

Taxing tobacco has little effect on "hard core" smokers. They just buy their illegal untaxed smokes mon Indian reservations. The bands make out like bandits, the smokers get cheap smokes, and the government gets even less tobacco tax.

"legalizing" and "controlling" weed will have the same effect. How can "the law" differentiate between taxed and illegal weed?

It's illegal for underaged kids to buy smokes - so all the highschool kids (and grade 5 and 6 "toughs" who want to smoke get their smokes from the same pusher they get their weed from - some kid in their class who's big brother/mom/dad/whateverpicks up trunkloads of untaxed cigs from Brantford or Sarnia or one of the other local "first nations" tobacco shops.". It's just like Moonshine.

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clare

I can often tell there is someone smoking upwind even before I smell the smoke - particularly if they are smoking menthols - because I all of a sudden have difficulty breathing.. I don't go out into places I'm likely to meet smokers without my Bricanyl inhaler in my pocket - just to be safe. Sometimes it's just very irritating - other times it is very debilitating.

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clare

Can someone lock Trader in a closed room with a case of cubans and

10 packs of Sweet caps and force him to smoke them all within 3 hours?? Then mabee we'd get some peace from the idiot.

I'll buy the shovel to bury him with.

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clare

A good case in point is cruise ships. European cruise ships allow smoking BUT NOT IN THE STATEROOMS ans NOT ON BALCONIES for safety reasons

American cruise ships allow smoking only in "designated areas" such as the casino and the "cigar bar" - but those areas are not sealed from the rest of the ship and are inadequately ventilated. On our last cruise there was over half of one deck - and a good section of another deck that i could NOT safely enter. Iincluding one of the highee end restaurants I wanted to eat in)

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clare

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Stormin Mormon

Center posted, as your reply is. Considerable text trimmed as a courtesy.

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Stormin Mormon

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The bottom line:

With potential health impacts. Almost everything has a potential health impact, including many of the things we have in our homes. This study proves nothing, no surprise. I could do a study on the effects of smoke generated off a range, conclude that it too has "possible health impacts.. BFD. And this has what to do with catching a whiff of smoke again? It doesn't.

Liberals leave behind toxic waste. How about these awful, horrific cancer producing products:

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On the list is Ajax, hot dogs and shampoo. OMG, we're all gonna die!

And again with the extreme nonsense, no compromise lunacy of the libs.

It's absolutely an issue of politics, which you'd of course realize if you were a conservative.

Again you demonstrate your ignorance. Businesses in most states are no longer free to do that. The libs saw to that. If you were a conservative, you'd know that.

No, they don't because in most states, the CAN NOT. Libs like you saw to that. There is no compromise.

Well, there you go, typical, talking out of both sides of your mouth. First you claim that bars and restaurants are free to choose, which they are not, and then you admit you want to crush that too. THAT is exactly what libs do. There is no compromise. It's why no one that's conservative wants to hear about a new gun law, because we know it's only one step on the lib process that never ends.

It has a lot of relevance, as cited above.

Gee, I wonder why?

If you were a conservative you'd know damn well that it's also a political issue.

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trader_4

You can't use the formula when it requires dividing by zero. There is no need to divide by zero to solve for V when I is zero. Capiche? You just insist on trying to force division by zero, when it's not required. Go back to the apples example.

Ohm's law requires no such thing. Ohn's law is a straight line and it goes right through the origin. Did you plot it yet? I mean this is incredibly dumb. Simple electricity 101 test question:

You have a 100 ohm resistor. Per Ohm's law, what is the voltage with:

A - 1 amp flowing B - 20 amps flowing C - 0 amps flowing

Everyone else that has weighed in on this knows the correct answers are

100 volts, 2000 volts, 0 volts. You're the only dummy who says we don't know what the voltage is in case C.

Try taking algebra and electricity 101 and get back to us

That's why you're the village idiot. Everyone else saw what I meant.

You need to take HS algebra.

T = N x 3 most certainly is a formula. It gives the total number of apples. Again, you're really lost here.

I'm only rude to assholes like you that can't do basic algebra and then lecture the rest of us, who can.

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trader_4

ROFL. If you think something that they did in a lab test tube explains why you got sick in a car from insulin resistance, you really are the village idiot.

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trader_4

Somebody let you out of your cage again? I guess soon you'll be explaining the US NEC to us again and making an ass of yourself as usual.

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trader_4

Per Frank:

Sometimes I wonder what would happen if I got my kicks by setting fire to little styrofoam cups in closed rooms.

OK, maybe the styro smoke is too demonstrably toxic...

But substitute something else that *really* stinks when burned and you get the idea....

I think that particular form of self-gratification would have an extremely short life span.

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(PeteCresswell)

Coutesy? You don't know courtesy. You don't know center posting either. Or current usenet ettiquette. I post my replies IN-LINE

You on the other hand just bitch and whine, posting "Center posted, as your reply is." with no input at all.

(By the way, your being a moron has nothing to do with being a mormon)

Reply to
clare

How about those stink bombs the "bad kids" set off in the classroom about grade 5??? The ones made od sulphur match heads in a pen case?

Reply to
clare

Looks like everybody else here 'has your number' so to speak. LOL

Reply to
FromTheRafters

Some restaurant offered cigar dinners on a regular basis. Some states made them illegal.

It is up to the restaurant to clean after. Going in the next day you'd never know there was smoking if it was properly ventilated and cleaned. Why should you care if it is not bothering you? No one is forcing anyone to do anything.

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Ed Pawlowski

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