For all of you "second hand smoke" ninnies.

[trader_4]

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That was the challenge I issued to you. Being the village idiot, you respond with links that say a study was done, but not the study or it's results. WTF is wrong with you?

[trader_4]

Yeah, Mr. Green here claims to be a Republican too, but he can't find one Republican, including Reagan that was any good. I suspect you're his kind of conservative. On the smoking issue, clearly the conservative position is that if you are an adult and you want to have a cigar dinner in a private room at a restaurant, it's none of the govt's business. If you can't see that, then it sure sounds like you're a lib. You also take the side of jerks who mouth off to cops, refuse to produce ID, resist arrest. You blame the cops. No, doesn't sound like you're a conservative to me.

[Muggles]

7/3/2016 8:22 AM, trader_4 wrote:

n 7/2/2016 12:05 PM, trader_4 wrote:

y, July 2, 2016 at 12:41:37 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wro te:

1:48 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

ok at this weeks "Inside Man" on CNN.

ll tell you about all of the dangerous chemicals you h ave around

igher concentrations than you find in

ff of smoke.

e, but it does not make smoke any less a danger. Fact ors

sure. Sitting in a tight space

in smokers is more than a whiff.

far as I know there is basically nowhere where you hav e to sit in a

ers. Unless you want to.

o complain when they *see* a whiff of smoke

ownwind 50 feet away.

ut the *smell* of smoke on clothing.

hat I assume he's talking about.

iving room filled with

day. Smell of smoke is not second hand smoke. I

zard.

owd, the smell of smoke IS second

nd third hand smoke causes

first or secondhand smoke.

l, scientific proof of that, not some extrapolated gue sses

his discussion and I've already "LET" you "KNOW". I pr ovided

e I've seen this discussed

Short memory? You responded to the "Where should smoking be ..." th read at least 17 times from 5/28/16 - 5/29/16, and 9 of your responses in that thread were you responding to about this same discussion.

Should I post the ms g ids?

difference in providing a link

ll you can read is that the study was done, but you ca n't

all of those links you just

here is. Example:

cesses on dynamic ETS organic gas concentrations and p otential exposures were studied in a carpeted and furn ished 50-m3 room ventilated at 0.6 h-1. Ten cigarettes were machine-smoked on six of every seven days over f our weeks. Concentrations of ETS-specific tracers and regulated toxic compounds were quantified during daily smoking, post-smoking and background periods. Potenti al exposures were calculated by period and day. Large sorption effects were observed for the widely used tra cers 3-ethenylpyridine and nicotine, and for several t oxic compounds including naphthalene and cresol isomer s. Short-term adsorption to indoor surfaces reduced co ncentrations and potential exposures during smoking, w hile later reemission increased concentrations and exp osures hours after smoking ended. Concentrations durin g nonsmoking periods rose from day to day over the fir st few weeks, presumably from increased reemission ass ociated with increased sorbed mass concentrations. For sorbing compounds, more than half of daily potential exposures occurred during nonsmoking periods."

Just how big of an idiot do you have to be to think th at is "proof" of

dy? WTF is wrong with you? Why would

any time looking at anything you say after that?

idn't say anything about

said just the smell of smoke, eg as you're

into a building.

actually discuss what the articles have to say, I'm go od

an do is make adolescent

de above.

les have to say, when you didn't

have to say, just that a study was done? Why do you

child knows the

nd the results.

You can't even remember responding to this very discussion on May.

Serious question, are you an Alzheimer's patient??

[Stormin Mormon]

Don't waste a lot of time. It appears clear that Trader will only accept a study done by Byzantine monks between the years 500BC and 400BC, with the report submitted in Egyptian, on papyrus scrolls. And stored in the Dead Sea Caves.

[Muggles]

It's not my job to prove anything about the contenc of a "whiff of smoke". You and others brought up the notion that a whiff wasn't enough exposure to cause any physical damage or reaction.

Prove your own premise.

Well, obviously, I don't communicate well with blowhards.

[Muggles]

Don't complain to me about issues you have with someone else.

Now, if I'm not "YOU'RE" kind of conservative, then I can't possibly BE a conservative?? Is that what you believe?

CLEARLY, that is YOUR position, which doesn't automatically fall into a conservative mindset. In fact, your kind of radical attitude is akin to how many liberals approach how they respond to anyone they disagree with. If you don't want people seeing you as being a liberal nutcase, you need to reassess how you respond.

How 'bout you take a flying leap off a short pier into shallow water? How does that trip your trigger, bubba?

You don't define what or who constitutes being conservative.

Changing the subject? Hey, start a new thread and I'll take you to school on that topic, too. It's already been discussed "why" I took the position that I took, and if you can't accept that I'm a conservative and have an opinion different from your own on 2 topics, then I guess you'll just be an unhappy camper.

[Muggles]

hahaha! Ok .. that was just funny.

[Sam E]

[snip]

It seems a lot of suicidal people follow the "golden rule". That is, they assume that since they want to die, that others want to die too. That, or they don't care.

[Mark Lloyd]

I had cancer in 1990, which had nothing to do with smoking. When I was at the place where they give radiation treatments, there were a lot of people with lung cancer. Some had to breathe through holes in their throats.

[Mark Lloyd]

[snip]

That makes sense, but leaves out something. How do the smokers get started? I look at smoking and see a nasty fire hazard.

BTW, I can remember riding a bus where someone in the seat behind me was smoking. The smell didn't seem to be a problem, and I was too young then to be concerned about health problems. However, I was aware of FIRE less than 2-3 inches from the back of my head.

[trader_4]

Serious question, are you the village idiot? Never mind, we know the answer. You just posted a link to an abstract about a study that was conducted. You're so stupid that you think that's "proof". It just says a study was done, a little about the methodology and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the results. And you want to talk about my mental health and brains? If we didn't already know you're the village idiot, that would go a long way to proving it.

[trader_4]

Moron, she didn't post a "study". She posted a link to a short abstract about a study, that only says the study was done, a little about the methodology and NOTHING about the conclusions.

This would be like someone saying Mormons are a bunch of child molesters and when challenged, some idiot posts a link to an abstract that say a study was done, they looked at 5000 Mormons over 5 years. Nothing at all about what they found.

No go f*ck yourself and take Muggles with you.

[trader_4]

Who's complaining. I just pointed to a classic example here of someone who clearly is not what they claim to be, just like you.

Wooosh! Right over your pin head. The fact is that someone who chooses people who tell cops to f*ck off, resist arrest, while condemning the cops, doesn't sound conservative. Nor someone that thinks it's govt's job to extinguish every cigarette in America, that people shouldn't be allowed the freedom to choose for themselves. THAT is what libs do, smoking, now soda sizes, salt on restaurant tables.

Of course it does. Which once again demonstrates that you don't even know what conservatives stand for today. Explain to us where in the Constitution as the framers put it forth, it gives the govt the right to deny people the right to have a private cigar dinner at a restaurant. You think Madison would support your position?

In fact, your kind of radical attitude is akin to

I'm the radical? Good grief. I support the right of a group of people to have cigar dinner in a restaurant. YOU are the one that wants to control people, FORCE your ways on everyone. THAT is what libs do.

Go f*ck yourself, how about that. And take that moron Mormon with you.

No your words and actions do and tells us all we need to know about you. Explain to us how banning a cigar dinner in a private room in a restaurant fits in with being a conservative. You can't. It doesn't.

Yeah, you sure took us to school on that one. But, but, but they were arrested for JAYWALKING! Wrong, village idiot. They were arrested for RESISTING arrest which everyone else could see right on the freaking video. You really are a total waste of protoplasm.

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per trader_4:

If those people would lighten up and start talking about the number of months before a fertilized egg becomes a person (i.e. try to roll back the date where abortions are legal) they would have some credibility with me.

But they are not; instead they are claiming that a single fertilized egg is the same as a person - and that's irrational enough to me to strongly suggest that their next agenda is making contraception illegal.

To be fair, maybe even *they* don't realize that.... but I would say there is a good chance of it being in the cards.

[FromTheRafters]

To you, everyone *else* seems to be the village idiot.

Have you figured out how 1^2 can equal 2 yet?

[Muggles]

I posted 4 links. Which one are you talking about? Care to discuss what the article actually contained, or do you just enjoy being vague?

[Muggles]

I think you've been smoking something illegal after reading that short paragraph.

'Scuse you, but you shouldn't presume to define what conservatives stand for today. Feel free to define what you believe, though.

Do you think it is the right of the people to pursue LIFE??

Have you forgotten:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are *Life*, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. ??"

What does it mean to pursue LIFE?? It isn't just about pursuing liberty or happiness.

You're a blowhard, and never listen to anything people say unless it's someone stroking your ego and kissing your patootie. If you don't get your way you resort to character assassination as if you think that makes you sound superior or even smarter.

It just makes you look immature and unable to practice grown up self control. Seriously, see a counselor.

Wake up and smell the stench - the era of smoking is declining and the idea that it's cool, healthy, and something to be admired has gone the way of the dodo bird.

Unlike you, I've got no experience with that sort of act.

hmmm So, basically, my words and actions have taken you to school on this particular topic?

It's NOT a political issue - it's a HEALTH issue.

I did. :)

[trader_4]

HAve you figured out how a current of zero is a real value, isn't a violation of Ohms Law, and doesn't involve division by zero? And no, everyone here isn't the village idiot, just certain people. In your case, you earned it by arguing with everyone about V =IR being undefined with a current of Zero. Muggles has earned it, many times, many ways. The latest was posting an abstract to a study as a reference to prove the dangers of a whiff of smoke, when what she posted was just an abstract that says an experiment was conducted, NOTHING about the results. Certificate awarded.

[trader_4]

I already went through it with you. Once again, you're the village idiot. Time to change your screen name again, to better troll, perhaps?

[trader_4]

So, just stay away from us. But don't use the heavy hand of govt to screw us, deny us the right to a cigar dinner at a restaurant in a private room, and then pretend you're a conservative.